Hi, As you know, lmtx is also a place for experiments. Currently I'm playing a bit with fonts. Recently (as mentioned a whil eback) I added glyph scaling which permits interesting trickery, although one needs to be aware of how it combines with other features. Here's an example: \def\UnKernedTeX {T% {\glyph xoffset -.2ex yoffset -.4ex `E}% {\glyph xoffset -.4ex options "C0 `X}} \dorecurse{100}{ x \UnKernedTeX} There are alse \glyphxscale cum suis but again, beware that it might influence things when not used grouped. At some point this will be an option in scaled fonts (think of \tfc and such). It saves instances. You can get an idea with: \enableexperiments[text.fonts.compact] The 'text' in this command suggests that we can also do that with math and indeed we have \enableexperiments[math.fonts.compact] These directives have to come *before* loading fonts in order to be effective. Especially the math can bring down the number of font instances: text, script and scriptscript all use the same instance, which is good news. The bad news is that it's up to users to check how this plays out. There are some differences due to the fact that scaling happens elsewhere and otherwise which results in tiny differences (4/5th decimal). As said, these are experiments so ity might progress. I post intermediate versions because that way I can control it better. There is another variant in the planning. Yet another expriment (undecided if that will stay, i played with if before and then rejected it): \enabledirectives[fonts.injections.method=advance] If it stays I probbably have to patch some other code to better suit it. Overall, although in math it add to the overhead, due to the fact that math is hardly demanding (makes only a fraction of the rendering) the memory footprint can be quite a bit lower and performance a bit better (not that much). The measures used in rendering are kind of floating (recalculated often) when these mechanisms are enabled but my impression is that todays compilers make that hardly noticeable. As usual, it opens up possibilities, but of course at the price of testing. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------