Norbert Preining wrote:
I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work.
The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-)
That's ok, thanks (dropped the old CCs, added dev-luatex).
Taco
Hi Taco! Hi luatex Devs!
On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Norbert Preining wrote:
I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work.
The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-)
That's ok, thanks (dropped the old CCs, added dev-luatex).
Ok, perfect, can someone put me on the dev-luatex list, if you think it make sense? I was working with omega until it was dead (ok, you know what I mean), then aleph (same same, but different), so I hope that luatex does not go the same way.
Best wishes
Norbert
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Hi Norbert,
Norbert Preining wrote:
Ok, perfect, can someone put me on the dev-luatex list, if you think it make sense? I was working with omega until it was dead (ok, you know what I mean), then aleph (same same, but different), so I hope that luatex does not go the same way.
You are on the list now, welcome.
Best, Taco
Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi Taco! Hi luatex Devs!
On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Norbert Preining wrote:
I know, I will call the package luatex-snapshot upload it to experimental, and people will get a warning about its usage. It is ok this way, not many people will get it from experimental anyway, but I want to have it around for testing, and better early adoption then late work.
The point is that there are people who don't want to compile things but still are able to test stuff. For those luatex-snapshot pacakged will serve, too (and for me, because I don't want to have packages not under package management control on my system ;-)
That's ok, thanks (dropped the old CCs, added dev-luatex).
Ok, perfect, can someone put me on the dev-luatex list, if you think it make sense? I was working with omega until it was dead (ok, you know what I mean), then aleph (same same, but different), so I hope that luatex does not go the same way.
don't worry; first of all part of the software development by taco is paid for by a grant (oriental tex project); next, luatex is a prelude for pdftex version 2 (version 1 == good old tex will be frozen i.e. no more new features, only big fixes); and on top of that, taco and i are pretty determined to get it done
(there will be some reports in tugboat/maps about experiences so far; next year, context will ship with so called context mkiv code (extra zip) which reimplements some parts in lua; by then, we need to discuss a few distribution things because luatex may demand a different setup)
Hans
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Hi Norbert,
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:23:29 -0700, Norbert Preining preining@logic.at wrote:
Ok, perfect, can someone put me on the dev-luatex list, if you think it make sense? I was working with omega until it was dead (ok, you know what I mean), then aleph (same same, but different), so I hope that luatex does not go the same way.
Note that luatex is, for all practical purposes, the successor to aleph. That is, the relevant/most useful portions of aleph have been ported to luatex, aleph documents can already be run by luatex, and when luatex is ready for prime time aleph will be obsolete.
Put another way: Omega is a separate project but Aleph has basically merged with the luatex project.
Best Idris
Hi all!
(Answer only to ML as all of you are subscribed)
On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
don't worry; first of all part of the software development by taco is paid for by a grant (oriental tex project); next, luatex is a prelude for pdftex
Great to hear this! Congratulations Taco!
(there will be some reports in tugboat/maps about experiences so far; next year, context will ship with so called context mkiv code (extra zip) which reimplements some parts in lua; by then, we need to discuss a few distribution things because luatex may demand a different setup)
I am here ...
On Don, 21 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
some time next year you may test how well the kpse replacement that we have for luatex performs/integrates (includes reading from zip files, luabased config files, etc).
As soon as you have something to test, I try.
On Don, 21 Dez 2006, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
Note that luatex is, for all practical purposes, the successor to aleph. That is, the relevant/most useful portions of aleph have been ported to luatex, aleph documents can already be run by luatex, and when luatex is ready for prime time aleph will be obsolete.
Hi Idris, nice to see you here!! Recently I was on the Italian TeX User Group meeting and asked about Giuseppe Ballotti (aleph) and everyone told me that they are sorry but it seems he is missing (or lost interest at all). Good to hear that we have a post-aleph!
Put another way: Omega is a separate project but Aleph has basically merged with the luatex project.
Well, omega1 was more or less integrated into aleph, and omega2 is something in theory, AFAIS
Best wishes
Norbert
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