[NTG-pdftex] \expanded

Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au
Thu May 17 01:12:15 CEST 2018

Hi Karl, and others.

On May 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Karl Berry <karl at freefriends.org<mailto:karl at freefriends.org>> wrote:

Doing a grep on /usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/tex/, I see \expanded
is used in a couple oberdiek packages, context, and mathspec. I did not
try to figure out if the mathspec usage is compatible. It might be worth
notifying its author at some point as a courtesy. FWIW ...

Is  \expanded  really equivalent to that  xelatex  definition below:


It seems to me that it should be, but maybe there is actually a slight difference.
So it would be nice to see some practical applications;
e.g., where a package author had a specific desire, or absolute need (?),
to avoid going via a temporary container-like macro such as  \@tempa  above.

Otherwise, why the need for this as a primitive?
Convenience only, is not normally a good enough reason to add a primitive.

generic/oberdiek/etexcmds.sty:239: \let\etex at expanded\expanded
generic/oberdiek/etexcmds.sty:272: Could not find \string\expanded.\MessageBreak
generic/oberdiek/etexcmds.sty:275: that some package has redefined \string\expanded.%
generic/oberdiek/hobsub-generic.sty:3645:\let\etex at expanded\expanded
generic/oberdiek/hobsub-generic.sty:3678: Could not find \string\expanded.\MessageBreak
generic/oberdiek/hobsub-generic.sty:3681: that some package has redefined \string\expanded.%
xelatex/mathspec/mathspec.sty:132: \expanded{\noexpand\setkeys*[eu]{#2}{\expandonce#3\@empty}}}
xelatex/mathspec/mathspec.sty:134: \expanded{\noexpand\zf at fontspec{\expandonce#1\@empty}{\expandonce#2\@empty}}}

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