[NTG-context] a cross-reference query

jbf roma83537 at gmail.com
Tue May 10 09:10:02 CEST 2022


Thanks Hraban, Taco. It is very helpful to get these hints. I will work 
through them calmly over the next day or so. Not sure why the spaces 
disappeared in the message (1 età came out as 1età etc.). Probably 
because I copy-pasted from the text editor but all spacing is correct in 
the editor I can assure you.

It's a very big document, hundreds of pages, so I even wondered if the 
size of the document was a factor. But Taco's warning about possible 
duplicates definitely becomes a possibility in a very large doc! Anyway, 
I'll work through those hints and see where things are at after that.

Julian

On 10/5/22 16:47, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> while I can’t help you with the real issue, a few hints:
>
> * Look into the .tuc file for the references. Do you find differences 
> between working and not-working examples?
>
> * Do the examples work if you take them out of your big document or if 
> you change the order?
>
> * There are “strange” space characters in your message, they disappear 
> in the quoted version below. That might cause troubles in typesetting 
> and referencing.
>
> * You don’t need to set "marking" if it’s the same as the title.
>
> * It might make sense to use \about instead of \in – \about[eta] would 
> render as “1a età“
>
> * I would define a few macros, e.g. for the \in where both parameters 
> are the same and for stuff like \bullet\enspace – probably you just 
> left these out to simplify the example.
>
> Hraban
>
>
> Am 10.05.22 um 04:03 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> In an attempt to make a dictionary interactive in certain ways, 
>> perhaps I am misusing the \in{}[] command here, but sometimes a 
>> reference works and sometimes it doesn't. I have no idea why it 
>> doesn't. Here is the situation:
>>
>> Each dictionary entry is a section that has been defined as 'entry', 
>> hence we have a \startentry[title=,marking=,reference=]...\stopentry 
>> structure. Many entries can refer to other entries in the dictionary 
>> (in most cases the headword is in Italian, but the definitions, 
>> explanations are in English in all cases). in 90% of cases my 
>> referencing is working, so here is an example of one that works when 
>> \setupinteraction[state=start] is set:
>>
>> \startentry[title={1aetà},marking={1aetà},reference={eta}]\\
>>
>> 1. youth. 2. first age. {\emnp.} \bullet\enspaceThe age between 
>> adolescence and maturity and by extension all of the human 
>> being’sfirst age (as opposed to old age).
>>
>> Different cultures distinguish} age groupings in different ways. One 
>> would be unlikely to find, in English, terms like first age, second 
>> age etc. as recorded here. In fact there are probably only three 
>> general groupings in English: young, middle-aged, elderly, and the 
>> boundaries are rather flexible for these. Among the young category, 
>> English might distinguish infants, children, adolescents young 
>> adults. \rightarrow\enspace \in{giovani}[giovani]
>>
>> \stopentry
>>
>> In other words, there is an entry called 'giovani' and it begins 
>> \startentry[title={giovani},marking={giovani},reference={giovani}]. 
>> That correctly gives me a bold green clickable link which takes me to 
>> 'giovani'. There is no number or page reference involved. I simply 
>> want the link to take me to the entry concerned.
>>
>> But it does not always work. I have another entry called 'ad nutum' 
>> (Latin, not Italian in this case) with a reference to 'segretario' 
>> many pages on. I am absolutely sure I have the reference for 
>> segretario properly set up, both in its own entry and by calling it 
>> as I did for 'giovani', namely this time as 
>> \in{segretario}[segretario] but it is not recognized. This is not the 
>> only non-working case. There are several.
>>
>> Can anyone give me a hint as to what I might be doing wrong? I 
>> realise that usually these references call on page numbers or section 
>> numbers, but I don't want/need (or do I?) to use those. I simply the 
>> reader to be able to click on a hyperlink which takes them to the 
>> referenced entry.
>>
>> Julian
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