# [NTG-context] a cross-reference query

Henning Hraban Ramm texml at fiee.net
Tue May 10 08:47:26 CEST 2022

Hi Julian,

while I can’t help you with the real issue, a few hints:

* Look into the .tuc file for the references. Do you find differences
between working and not-working examples?

* Do the examples work if you take them out of your big document or if
you change the order?

* There are “strange” space characters in your message, they disappear
in the quoted version below. That might cause troubles in typesetting
and referencing.

* You don’t need to set "marking" if it’s the same as the title.

render as “1a età“

* I would define a few macros, e.g. for the \in where both parameters
are the same and for stuff like \bullet\enspace – probably you just left
these out to simplify the example.

Hraban

Am 10.05.22 um 04:03 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
> Hi list,
>
> In an attempt to make a dictionary interactive in certain ways, perhaps
> I am misusing the \in{}[] command here, but sometimes a reference works
> and sometimes it doesn't. I have no idea why it doesn't. Here is the
> situation:
>
> Each dictionary entry is a section that has been defined as 'entry',
> hence we have a \startentry[title=,marking=,reference=]...\stopentry
> structure. Many entries can refer to other entries in the dictionary (in
> most cases the headword is in Italian, but the definitions, explanations
> are in English in all cases). in 90% of cases my referencing is working,
> so here is an example of one that works when
> \setupinteraction[state=start] is set:
>
> \startentry[title={1aetà},marking={1aetà},reference={eta}]\\
>
> 1. youth. 2. first age. {\emnp.} \bullet\enspaceThe age between
> adolescence and maturity and by extension all of the human being’sfirst
> age (as opposed to old age).
>
> Different cultures distinguish} age groupings in different ways. One
> would be unlikely to find, in English, terms like first age, second age
> etc. as recorded here. In fact there are probably only three general
> groupings in English: young, middle-aged, elderly, and the boundaries
> are rather flexible for these. Among the young category, English might
> \rightarrow\enspace \in{giovani}[giovani]
>
> \stopentry
>
> In other words, there is an entry called 'giovani' and it begins
> \startentry[title={giovani},marking={giovani},reference={giovani}]. That
> correctly gives me a bold green clickable link which takes me to
> 'giovani'. There is no number or page reference involved. I simply want
> the link to take me to the entry concerned.
>
> But it does not always work. I have another entry called 'ad nutum'
> (Latin, not Italian in this case) with a reference to 'segretario' many
> pages on. I am absolutely sure I have the reference for segretario
> properly set up, both in its own entry and by calling it as I did for
> 'giovani', namely this time as \in{segretario}[segretario] but it is not
> recognized. This is not the only non-working case. There are several.
>
> Can anyone give me a hint as to what I might be doing wrong? I realise
> that usually these references call on page numbers or section numbers,
> but I don't want/need (or do I?) to use those. I simply the reader to be
> able to click on a hyperlink which takes them to the referenced entry.
>
> Julian