[NTG-context] a cross-reference query

Henning Hraban Ramm texml at fiee.net
Tue May 10 08:47:26 CEST 2022

Hi Julian,

while I can’t help you with the real issue, a few hints:

* Look into the .tuc file for the references. Do you find differences 
between working and not-working examples?

* Do the examples work if you take them out of your big document or if 
you change the order?

* There are “strange” space characters in your message, they disappear 
in the quoted version below. That might cause troubles in typesetting 
and referencing.

* You don’t need to set "marking" if it’s the same as the title.

* It might make sense to use \about instead of \in – \about[eta] would 
render as “1a età“

* I would define a few macros, e.g. for the \in where both parameters 
are the same and for stuff like \bullet\enspace – probably you just left 
these out to simplify the example.


Am 10.05.22 um 04:03 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
> Hi list,
> In an attempt to make a dictionary interactive in certain ways, perhaps 
> I am misusing the \in{}[] command here, but sometimes a reference works 
> and sometimes it doesn't. I have no idea why it doesn't. Here is the 
> situation:
> Each dictionary entry is a section that has been defined as 'entry', 
> hence we have a \startentry[title=,marking=,reference=]...\stopentry 
> structure. Many entries can refer to other entries in the dictionary (in 
> most cases the headword is in Italian, but the definitions, explanations 
> are in English in all cases). in 90% of cases my referencing is working, 
> so here is an example of one that works when 
> \setupinteraction[state=start] is set:
> \startentry[title={1aetà},marking={1aetà},reference={eta}]\\
> 1. youth. 2. first age. {\emnp.} \bullet\enspaceThe age between 
> adolescence and maturity and by extension all of the human being’sfirst 
> age (as opposed to old age).
> Different cultures distinguish} age groupings in different ways. One 
> would be unlikely to find, in English, terms like first age, second age 
> etc. as recorded here. In fact there are probably only three general 
> groupings in English: young, middle-aged, elderly, and the boundaries 
> are rather flexible for these. Among the young category, English might 
> distinguish infants, children, adolescents young adults. 
> \rightarrow\enspace \in{giovani}[giovani]
> \stopentry
> In other words, there is an entry called 'giovani' and it begins 
> \startentry[title={giovani},marking={giovani},reference={giovani}]. That 
> correctly gives me a bold green clickable link which takes me to 
> 'giovani'. There is no number or page reference involved. I simply want 
> the link to take me to the entry concerned.
> But it does not always work. I have another entry called 'ad nutum' 
> (Latin, not Italian in this case) with a reference to 'segretario' many 
> pages on. I am absolutely sure I have the reference for segretario 
> properly set up, both in its own entry and by calling it as I did for 
> 'giovani', namely this time as \in{segretario}[segretario] but it is not 
> recognized. This is not the only non-working case. There are several.
> Can anyone give me a hint as to what I might be doing wrong? I realise 
> that usually these references call on page numbers or section numbers, 
> but I don't want/need (or do I?) to use those. I simply the reader to be 
> able to click on a hyperlink which takes them to the referenced entry.
> Julian

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