[NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

Ivan Pešić ivan.pesic at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 16:08:33 CET 2021


One nice tool that I use for translation is
https://po4a.org/index.php.en

I used it to translate (and maintain) complete Vim documentation.

It could be adapted to work with Context (there is already a Latex module)

Regards,
Ivan

сре, 6. јан 2021. 12:56 <ntg-context-request at ntg.nl> је написао/ла:

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>    1. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
>       (Bruce Horrocks)
>    2. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
>       (Joaquín Ataz López)
>    3. Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
>       (Augusto Stoffel)
>    4. Re: Randomize order of blocks (Otared Kavian)
>    5. Re: Randomize order of blocks (Otared Kavian)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bruce Horrocks <ntg at scorecrow.com>
> To: "ntg-context at ntg.nl" <ntg-context at ntg.nl>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:36:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
>
>
> > On 5 Jan 2021, at 20:31, Garulfo <garulfo at azules.eu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I saw that Mojca created a directory
> > https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context
> >
> > Joaquín, if you agree, and if
> > - you provide me with the spanish + english source codes
> > - Mojca provide you and me with github write access (garulfogb account)
> >
> > i could :
> > 1/ push the current code
> > 2/ start to write a github wiki page (+ link on contextgarden) to
> describe :
> > - for you : how to update from your own computer (the official source)
> > - for any user : how to use git to get the source + link to this list
> for discussion.
> >
> > Does anybody has a guide about "how to set up a documentation
> translation project with git ?".
> > One requirement will probably to define how propositions are officially
> validated. Does it requires Joaquín to learn how to use git ? Can we just
> work by sending files (or patches) to Joaquín who will update with a single
> git command ?
>
> I think we need to be really clear about what we want to achieve here.
>
> 1) Is it just making the source plus the PDF available for download? If so
> then there are plenty of simpler ways to do that than using Git.
>
> 2) If it is to gather feedback on things like typos then we don't need
> Git. For example I spotted a missing ']' in the English translation so all
> I need is a way to submit a 'bug report' not access to the source.
>
> 3) So what is left? To provide a way for translators to be notified of
> changes to the original? To provide a collaboration mechanism for
> significant changes to the document?
>
> I don't see that Git adds much in the way of value unless Joaquín and the
> translators are already very familiar with it -- because the learning curve
> is very steep and recovering from mistakes (made to the repository itself
> rather than to the document content) can sometimes be extremely difficult.
>
> --
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Joaquín Ataz López" <jal at um.es>
> To: ntg-context at ntg.nl
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 06:26:34 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
> I don't really know anything about git, so I can't give my opinion about
> what is or isn't convenient to do. Certainly to report bugs in my text I
> don't think it takes anything more than an e-mail to send them to me.
> Having a repository can be useful to keep a version that is always up to
> date; but that, on the other hand, would force me to be continually
> modifying the text, which in principle is not my intention. I do not
> exclude that there will be other versions in the future, but for the
> moment this is not part of my plans. And if there were other versions,
> it would be more to add some chapter; mainly I think that the most
> important material that is missing is the one related to XML, Lua and
> Metapost, that is: the three additional languages in which a ConTeXt
> document can be written. But I am far from being able to write anything
> about any of those three aspects. Some member of the list has offered to
> help me with it, but not immediately (we all have a lot of work).
>
> The original idea, I think, was to provide a platform that would allow
> different collaborators to translate the text into different languages.
> Whether or not git is the best solution for that purpose, I really don't
> know.
>
> What I would appreciate is that guide on "how to set up a documentation
> translation project with git? that Garulfo proposes.
>
> El 5/1/21 a las 21:31, Garulfo escribió:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I saw that Mojca created a directory
> > https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context
> >
> > Joaquín, if you agree, and if
> > - you provide me with the spanish + english source codes
> > - Mojca provide you and me with github write access (garulfogb account)
> >
> > i could :
> > 1/ push the current code
> > 2/ start to write a github wiki page (+ link on contextgarden) to
> > describe :
> > - for you : how to update from your own computer (the official source)
> > - for any user : how to use git to get the source + link to this list
> > for discussion.
> >
> > Does anybody has a guide about "how to set up a documentation
> > translation project with git ?".
> > One requirement will probably to define how propositions are
> > officially validated. Does it requires Joaquín to learn how to use git
> > ? Can we just work by sending files (or patches) to Joaquín who will
> > update with a single git command ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 03/01/2021 à 19:08, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> >> On 1/3/2021 5:42 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 15:37, Garulfo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In oct 2020, a message proposed to create a GitHub/GitLab
> >>>> repository (or
> >>>> even organization) for this so that anybody can help translating it
> >>>> into
> >>>> other languages:
> >>>> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2020/099789.html
> >>>
> >>> If you want to see it under
> >>>      https://github.com/contextgarden/
> >>> just propose the repository name and list the usernames for those who
> >>> should initially have access.
> >> also because that would fit well into the plans for a bunch of
> >> context related repositories
> >>
> >> Hans
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>                                            Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
> >>                Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
> >>         tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> >>
> >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
> >> entry to the Wiki!
> >>
> >> maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
> >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> >> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> >> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> >>
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> >
> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> > to the Wiki!
> >
> > maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
> > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> > archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> >
>
> --
> Joaquín Ataz López
> Derecho Civil
> Universidad de Murcia
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel at gmail.com>
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context at ntg.nl>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:17:41 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
> Hi Joaquín,
>
> Here is a small suggestion, which would have a few different uses. The
> following link, which I copied from the index, should take you to the
> definition of \vbox:
>
>
> https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_eng.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A117%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22Fit%22%7D%5D
>
> This works at least in some browsers, or by passing the stuff after #
> as a suitable command-line argument to some PDF viewers.
>
> So, it would be really nice to make those named destinations stable and
> readable, for instance
>
> https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_eng.pdf#vbox
>
> I suspect this is either a switch you turn on in ConTeXt, or something
> that would still need to be implemented as a feature.
>
> Best,
> Augusto
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:00 AM Henning Hraban Ramm <texml at fiee.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > Am 03.01.2021 um 22:24 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen at xs4all.nl>:
> >  >
> >  > On 1/3/2021 10:02 PM, BPJ wrote:
> >  >> I understand that and it is all well and good. I am wondering if
> > there already is *another* text which presupposes basic knowledge of
> > TeX and general knowledge of LaTeX, perhaps in a by-topic style.
> >  > I think this relates to the question how someone comes to tex and
> > then to context. Are tex macro packages used alongside and such? Are
> > there 'from word/office to tex' or reverse manuals? What could be a
> > motivation to write one.
> >
> >  I guess most ConTeXt users migrated from LaTeX at some point, so
> > that guide would really make sense. But I can’t write it either,
> > even if I’m also working with LaTeX (but just as a user of one
> > special class).
> >
> >  If I run into a problem in LaTeX that I know to solve in ConTeXt,
> > the approach is never right.
> >
> >  I think the similarities of LaTeX and ConTeXt are mostly misleading,
> > you’re better off trying to forget everything and start anew.
> >
> >  In LaTeX most problems are solved with “use this or that
> > package”, without the need to understand the commands and settings
> > involved, while in ConTeXt most problems are solved with
> > \setupsomething[somekey=somevalue].
> >
> >  Of course it helps to understand basic TeX stuff – but you’re
> > not supposed to use (plain) TeX commands in LaTeX, while it is or was
> > much more usual in ConTeXt.
> >
> >  Writing my book I have users of text processors (Word/LibreOffice)
> > and layout applications (InDesign etc.) in mind, even if I assume
> > that most readers (if I’ll ever publish it...) will come from LaTeX.
> >
> >
> >
> >  > So, one way out could be to have some collection of tips /
> > suggestions and turn that into a kind of manual. Something to do by
> > those who make some transition or use alongside. The wiki is the
> > place start with that.
> >  >
> >  > So .. up to users.
> >
> >  Yes, and that means: up to users migrating from LaTeX and
> > documenting their struggles.
> >
> >  Hraban
> >
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >  If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
> > entry to the Wiki!
> >
> >  maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
> > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >  webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> >  archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> >  wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Otared Kavian <otared at gmail.com>
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context at ntg.nl>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:41:13 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Randomize order of blocks
> Hi Jairo,
>
> One can indeed make quizzes and exams with randomized order of problems,
> randomized values and even randomized names of functions and variables.
> I have some examples which I have been using for several years (they are
> useful especially in these days of giving exams online…): I can send them
> to you as they are, or if you tell me what kind of problems you want, then
> I can adapt my examples before sending them to you.
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
> > On 5 Jan 2021, at 17:18, Jairo A. del Rio <jairoadelrio6 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, list.
> >
> > Some time ago I realized ConTeXt has "blocks" which allow one to make
> quizzes, exams and related with ease. However, I want to know if there's an
> option to randomize their order when printed. Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Jairo
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
> >
> > maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> > archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Otared Kavian <otared at gmail.com>
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context at ntg.nl>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:55:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Randomize order of blocks
> Following up my previous message, here is an example:
>
> %% begin shuffled list of exercises
> \setuprandomize[2021]
>
> \startluacode
>         function shuffle(tableau)
>                 local maxsize, t, tt
>                 maxsize = #tableau
>                 tt = {}
>                 t = {}
>                 for i = 1, maxsize do
>                         t[i] = {}
>                         t[i]["columnOne"] = tableau[i]
>                         t[i]["columnTwo"] = math.random(1,100*maxsize)
>                 end
>                 table.sort(t, function(a,b) return a.columnTwo <
> b.columnTwo end)
>                 for i = 1, maxsize do
>                         tt[i] = t[i]["columnOne"]
>                 end
>                 return tt
>         end
> \stopluacode
>
> % We define three arrays
> % with the names, the functions and their derivatives
> % One could also add a ListOfVariables...
>
> \startluacode
>
>         ListOfNames = {
>                 "f",
>                 "g",
>                 "h",
>                 "u",
>                 "v",
>                 "F",
>                 "G",
>                 "H",
>         }
>
>         ListOfFunctions = {
>                 "\\cos(x^2)",
>                 "x\\sin(x)",
>                 "\\tan(x)",
>                 "x^3 - 3x^2 + 1",
>                 "\\frac{1}{1 + x^2}",
>                 "\\sin(\\log(x))",
>                 }
>
>         ListOfDerivatives = {
>                 "-2x\\sin(x^2)",
>                 "x\\cos(x) + \\sin(x)",
>                 "1 + \\tan(x)^2",
>                 "3x^2 - 6x",
>                 "\\frac{-2x}{(1 + x^2)^2}",
>                 "\\frac{\\cos(\\log(x))}{x}",
>                 }
>
> \stopluacode
>
> \starttext
>
> % We define a buffer and a shuffled list of integers
>
> \startbuffer[test-derivatives]
> \startluacode
>         ShuffledList = shuffle({1,2,3,4,5,6})
> \stopluacode
>
> Let $\cldcontext{ListOfNames[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}(x) :=
> \cldcontext{ListOfFunctions[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}$. Prove that
> \startformula
> \cldcontext{ListOfNames[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}'(x) =
> \cldcontext{ListOfDerivatives[ShuffledList[\recurselevel]]}
> \stopformula
> \stopbuffer
>
> \dorecurse{6}{\blank[medium]{\bf Exercise #1.}
>         \getbuffer[test-derivatives]
>         }
>
> \stoptext
>
> %% end shuffled list of exercises
>
>
> > On 6 Jan 2021, at 09:41, Otared Kavian <otared at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jairo,
> >
> > One can indeed make quizzes and exams with randomized order of problems,
> randomized values and even randomized names of functions and variables.
> > I have some examples which I have been using for several years (they are
> useful especially in these days of giving exams online…): I can send them
> to you as they are, or if you tell me what kind of problems you want, then
> I can adapt my examples before sending them to you.
> >
> > Best regards: Otared
> >
> >> On 5 Jan 2021, at 17:18, Jairo A. del Rio <jairoadelrio6 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, list.
> >>
> >> Some time ago I realized ConTeXt has "blocks" which allow one to make
> quizzes, exams and related with ease. However, I want to know if there's an
> option to randomize their order when printed. Thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> Jairo
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
> >>
> >> maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> >> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> >> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context at ntg.nl /
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> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
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