[NTG-context] Cross references to column numbers

Oliver von Criegern oliver.v.criegern at badw-muenchen.de
Fri Nov 15 15:44:14 CET 2019


Could someone please take a look at this?

Am 12.11.19 um 13:02 schrieb Oliver von Criegern:
> Am 10.09.19 um 13:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> On 9/9/2019 10:05 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
>>> Bump
>>>
>>> On 9/3/19 4:46 AM, Oliver von Criegern wrote:
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> is there any way to get a cross reference to a column in a two 
>>>> column layout?
>>
>> yes and no:
>>
>> no : there is not something buil tin
>> yes: one can write some hack in a few lines
>>
>> but instead of posting such a hack (which then will a live of its 
>> own) i'll add a feature:
>>
>> \pagereference[column:#1]
>>
>> \doifelsereferencefound{column:#1}{\number\referencecolumnnumber}{}
>>
>> in the next beta,
>>
>> Hans
>
> Thanks for implementing this, but I am afraid it does not work 
> properly, at least not if there are several targets following one 
> after another.
>
> Consider this example:
>
>
> \setupcolumns[
>     n=2,
> ]
> \setuplinenumbering[
>     step=5,
>     method=page,
> ]
>
> \def\Lab#1{%
> \pagereference[#1]%
> \pagereference[column:#1]%
> \someline[#1]%
> }
>
> \def\Ref#1{
> page \at[#1],
> column 
> \doifelsereferencefound{column:#1}{\number\referencecolumnnumber}{},
> line \inlinerange[#1].
> }
>
> \starttext
> \startcolumns
> \startlinenumbering
>
> REFERENCES:\par
> A: \Ref{A}\par
> B: \Ref{B}\par
> C: \Ref{C}\par
> D: \Ref{D}\par
> E: \Ref{E}\par
> F: \Ref{F}\par
> \input lorem
> TARGETS:
> \Lab{A} A,
> \Lab{B} B,
> \Lab{C} C.
> \input lorem
> TARGETS:
> \Lab{D} D,
> \Lab{E} E,
> \Lab{F} F.
> \input lorem
>
> \stoplinenumbering
> \stopcolumns
> \stoptext
>
> As you will see, targets A, B and C are all in the first column, and 
> targets D, E and F are all in the second column. But the references 
> read as follows:
>
> A: page 1, column 1, line 29.
> B: page 1, column 1, line 29.
> C: page 1, column 2, line 29.
> D: page 1, column 2, line 14.
> E: page 1, column 3, line 14.
> F: page 1, column 3, line 14.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Oliver
>
>
>>
>>>> At least, I would need to get some value that tells me whether the 
>>>> target is in the left or in the right column. How to achieve this?
>>>>
>>>> This is the more simplified version of the my previous question 
>>>> cited below.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Oliver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 12.08.19 um 15:26 schrieb Oliver von Criegern:
>>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>>
>>>>> how can I create cross references to column numbers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a two column layout with column numbers in the header 
>>>>> instead of page numbers (actually, these column numbers are 
>>>>> calculated from the page numbers). Now I want to create a cross 
>>>>> reference that returns the column number of the target. How can I 
>>>>> achieve this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I can get the page number with \pagereference (for the 
>>>>> target) and \at (for the reference), but for calculating the 
>>>>> column number (according to what I did in the header), I would 
>>>>> also need to know whether the target is in the left or in the 
>>>>> right column, and I can't see how I can get this information.
>>>>>
>>>>> For an example, see the question posted by me at stackexchange:
>>>>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/502944/context-cross-references-to-column-numbers 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, I am wondering, regarding the generally very regular and 
>>>>> consistent naming of commands in ConTeXt, why this is not so in 
>>>>> the case of references. For example, to refer to a page, I need 
>>>>> \pagereference (for the target) and \at (for the reference); to 
>>>>> refer to a line, I need \someline (for the target) and \inline 
>>>>> (for the reference), but only if I want it to automatically add 
>>>>> the word "line" or something else before the number, otherwise I 
>>>>> have to use \inlinerange. It took me some time to find that out. 
>>>>> Wouldn't it be easier to have just one command for the target and 
>>>>> another one for the reference, and everything else, as counters 
>>>>> and headers to be returned, text to be added etc. to be configured 
>>>>> by options?
>> Because all these \in \at \about ... give back different things (a 
>> title, a number, a range, a ...) and packaging all that in one macro 
>> doens't make it cleaner so soon users will then wrap complex calls in 
>> a macro of their own (which then can clash with some existing name).
>>
>> Also, the ref mechanism evolved over decades and we're not going to 
>> drop compatibility.
>>
>> Hans
>>
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