[NTG-context] Cross references to column numbers

Oliver von Criegern oliver.v.criegern at badw-muenchen.de
Tue Sep 10 18:52:13 CEST 2019

Am 10.09.19 um 13:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 9/9/2019 10:05 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
>> Bump
>> On 9/3/19 4:46 AM, Oliver von Criegern wrote:
>>> Dear list members,
>>> is there any way to get a cross reference to a column in a two 
>>> column layout?
> yes and no:
> no : there is not something buil tin
> yes: one can write some hack in a few lines
> but instead of posting such a hack (which then will a live of its own) 
> i'll add a feature:
> \pagereference[column:#1]
> \doifelsereferencefound{column:#1}{\number\referencecolumnnumber}{}
> in the next beta,
> Hans

This would be great, thanks!

Best regards,

>>> At least, I would need to get some value that tells me whether the 
>>> target is in the left or in the right column. How to achieve this?
>>> This is the more simplified version of the my previous question 
>>> cited below.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Oliver.
>>> Am 12.08.19 um 15:26 schrieb Oliver von Criegern:
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>> how can I create cross references to column numbers?
>>>> I have a two column layout with column numbers in the header 
>>>> instead of page numbers (actually, these column numbers are 
>>>> calculated from the page numbers). Now I want to create a cross 
>>>> reference that returns the column number of the target. How can I 
>>>> achieve this?
>>>> Of course, I can get the page number with \pagereference (for the 
>>>> target) and \at (for the reference), but for calculating the column 
>>>> number (according to what I did in the header), I would also need 
>>>> to know whether the target is in the left or in the right column, 
>>>> and I can't see how I can get this information.
>>>> For an example, see the question posted by me at stackexchange:
>>>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/502944/context-cross-references-to-column-numbers 
>>>> Besides, I am wondering, regarding the generally very regular and 
>>>> consistent naming of commands in ConTeXt, why this is not so in the 
>>>> case of references. For example, to refer to a page, I need 
>>>> \pagereference (for the target) and \at (for the reference); to 
>>>> refer to a line, I need \someline (for the target) and \inline (for 
>>>> the reference), but only if I want it to automatically add the word 
>>>> "line" or something else before the number, otherwise I have to use 
>>>> \inlinerange. It took me some time to find that out. Wouldn't it be 
>>>> easier to have just one command for the target and another one for 
>>>> the reference, and everything else, as counters and headers to be 
>>>> returned, text to be added etc. to be configured by options?
> Because all these \in \at \about ... give back different things (a 
> title, a number, a range, a ...) and packaging all that in one macro 
> doens't make it cleaner so soon users will then wrap complex calls in 
> a macro of their own (which then can clash with some existing name).
> Also, the ref mechanism evolved over decades and we're not going to 
> drop compatibility.
> Hans
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