[NTG-context] roadmap

Mohammad Hossein Bateni bateni at gmail.com
Thu May 17 16:24:20 CEST 2018


Fabrice,

Accepting the caveats Hans pointed out for problematic spacing and some
issues with references, you might find [
https://github.com/bateni/rawsteps-mkiv] useful.  I ported RawSteps to MkIV
and have used it in a few presentations.  The version on github might be
buggy, but a good start if you really insist on using RawSteps.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:07 AM Hans Hagen <j.hagen at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 5/16/2018 9:14 PM, Fabrice L wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> >  > - Check what additional features users want (miss) and decide to what
> > extent and with what priority we will put effort in this.
> >
> > As asked, I add a wish to the list...
> >
> > One feature which I depend a lot on is to be able to do animations: I
> > actually use the Raw Steps module, by David Munger (dated from 2006),
> > which still worked, but in MKII only. This is essential for me for my
> > teaching and talks. During teaching, I have designed courses notes in
> > ConText using a lot modes of context: the notes are different for
> > the teacher, are available in two formats for the students (paper and
> > for completion on tablets), and there is a last version for use in the
> > class by me. In class, this is essential for me that the material is
> > presented by steps, otherwise students have a tendency to not listen, or
> > to not try to solve a problem is the solution is already on the screen.
> > I can not use the animation tools available in ConTexT using javascript,
> > since I use to show notes in class an iPad, and I use the stylus to fill
> > blanks present in the notes (which work great by the way !).
> > The facility to use modes in the courses notes like this have convinced
> > several of my colleagues to use ConTeXt for their teaching needs.
> >
> > Following threads on this list on animations, my understanding is that
> > Hans is not a great supporter of the method of animations in the Raw
> > Steps module, for technical reasons.
> >
> > I have switch to MKIV for others documents, but I'm still on MKII for
> > this reason for my courses notes, which are 90% one my needs in TeX.
> > Fabrice.
> A few remarks:
>
> (1) The mkiv approach uses not that much javascript actually, it uses
> layers that get turned on and off and it has a simplicity that i like,
> also because there is no interference with repetition (e.g. of
> references) cq. are no side effects (like bad spacing). Unfortunately
> layers are hardly supported and the trivial javascript to control some
> aspects of viewing neither. (Luigi and I have been thinking of adding
> lua to a mupdf based viewer ... maybe we should pick up that thread.)
>
> (2) Steps i.e. repetitive content has the problem that one then needs to
> make sure references get flushes only ones which also demands care by
> the user, and spacing not be influenced too badly by redoing chunks.
> This is why I made some explicit steppers (there are some in the mkiv
> part as s-present* files).
>
> I can give it some thought but it's not that trivial to do it right
> (according to my specs).
>
> Hans
>
>
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