# [NTG-context] bibliography again: “von” and “van”

Robert Blackstone blackstone.robert at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 10:29:51 CET 2015

On 28 Jan 2015, at 12:00 ,  Keith Schultz <keithjschultz at icloud.com> wrote
>
> We could simply add all kinds of switches and coding to help this process,
> but in the end we end up with an over complicated format that grows into a monster!

and

>
> I as an old school type and database person would think it far better, to take
> a more pratical approach.

Most probably I’m not qualified to seriously discuss Bibliography matters in ConTeXt, but wat Keith has written here appeals to me.

It would probably be OK to try and control all and everything in a Bibliography with commands and codes if there were only a few standard ways of presenting a bibliography.
But that is not the case, even if most people seem to use apa-style.

What should one do with an old book, of which there are several “facsimile editions” and an English translation, and you were required, by the publisher or the university, to render it in the Bibliography in the following way:

Gasparini, Francesco, L’Armonico pratico al cimbalo (Venice, 1709); repr. (New York, 1967); repr. (Bologna, 2001); trans. Frank Stillings as The Practical Harmonist at the Harpsichord (New Haven, CT, 1963)

or, other example:

Buchner, Hans, Das Fundamentbuch (c1525), CH-Bmi, MS F.I.8; ME: in Carl Paesler, ‘Fundamentbuch von Hans von Constanz, Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte des Orgelspiels im 16. Jahrhundert’, VMw, 5 (1889), 1-192

?

With a Bibliography to make of about 500 items, for a PhD thesis, of which more than half were of this kind, I gave up on all sophisticated tools of BibTeX and exclusively used the format Booklet, with Author, Title, City and PubYear, generated a .bbl and edited that to give me  the correct form.
And, yes, I had to tweak the apa -style a little but that part was easy.

The two examples are in the .bbl-file as follows:

\startpublication[k=Gasparini:2001ublt,t=booklet,
a={{{Gasparini, Francesco}}},y=2001,
n=73,s={Gas}01]
\author[]{}[]{}{{Gasparini, Francesco}}
\pubyear{1963}
\title{{L'armonico pratico al cimbalo {\em (Venice, 1708); repr.~(New York, 1967); repr. (Bologna, 2001); trans.~by Frank Stillings~as} The Practical Harmonist at the Harpsichord}}
\city{New Haven, CT}
\stoppublication

\startpublication[k=Buchner:1525fblt,t=booklet,
a={{{Buchner, Hans}}},y=,
n=39,s={Buc}]
\author[]{}[]{}{{Buchner, Hans}}
\title{{{Das Fundamentbuch} {\em ({\em c}1525), CH-Bmi, MS F.I.8; ME: in Carl Paesler,  \quote{Fundamentbuch von Hans von Constanz, Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte des Orgelspiels im 16.~Jahrhundert}}, VMw, {\em 5 (1889), 1-192}}}
\stoppublication

Primitive? Certainly. But it is straightforward, very flexible and it works.

I hope of course that the new Bibliography tool will be very powerful, but I also hope that it will remain possible, in ConTeXt, to keep doing things in a simple manner.

Best regards,

Robert Blackstone

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