[NTG-context] Context modules not on CATN and not in TeX Live (slightly OT)

Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com
Mon Jan 26 14:03:41 CET 2015


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Keith Schultz wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> The simple answer to your question would be to use this page:
>
> http://www.ctan.org/upload/

No, in case of ConTeXt that's not correct. The idea would be to handle
everything automatically once the modules are uploaded to
modules.contextgarden.net. Some discrepancies are intentional, some
are "bugs" (read as: nobody noticed that a module was missing and/or
bothered requesting it).

I was offline for a while and will explain this later in detail. I
just wanted to make sure that nobody starts uploading cmscbf and alike
to CTAN.

> BUT, the MISSING modules or packages are so-called third party!
> It should be the responsibility of the AUTHORS, to upload the to CTAN!

No, that's not the case with ConTeXt modules. They are synced automatically.

> Also, e.g cmscbf and cmttbf are no longer needed in mkiv! They are for use
> with
> mkii!
>
> Furthermore, you should concertrate on using ONLY MKIV! Especially,
> since your audience seem to be introductory.  MKII is frozen and IMHO
> outdated!

It's not so much outdated, but it's certainly frozen and certainly not
worth spending too much effort in it. (With an exception of occasional
support for XeTeX which is still an up-to-date engine.)

> I would suggest that you point them to the Standalone stable release,
> if you actually need the missing third party modules.

No, wait, let's try to clear things up first.

If modules should be on CTAN and aren't, I'll add them to CTAN. If
modules are on CTAN, but not in TeX Live, we should figure out why
they are excluded from TeX Live and either make sure that they are
either added to TeX Live (if there are no problems with licencing,
packaging etc.) or removed from CTAN (in case they are not really
useful). We could keep some modules on CTAN if they are useful, but
don't qualify for TL inclusion for some obscure reason.

"Don't use TeX Live" could be the proper advice for someone who wants
to use the latest version of ConTeXt, but one shouldn't confuse the
user just because a module is missing in TL by accident.

Mojca


> Am 25.01.2015 um 13:21 schrieb Axel Kielhorn <tex at axelkielhorn.de>:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm trying to learn ConTeXt working through some examples I found on Context
> Garden and the internet.
>
> Since I already have TeX Live 2014 installed I could run most of the
> examples.
> When I ran into a problem, I installed the standalone version and compared
> the supplied modules.
>
> The following modules are not part of Context in TeX Live 2014.
>
> animation/     GPL 3
> annotation/    GPL 3
> cmscbf/        GPL 2          on CTAN
> cmttbf/        GPL 2          on CTAN
> fancybreak/    GPL 3
> layout/        GPL
> title/         GPL 3
> urwgaramond/   GPL 2          on CTAN
> urwgothic/     Public Domain  on CTAN
> visualcounter/ Simplified BSD License
>
>
> Some are on CTAN, some are missing there.
> Since TeX Live takes the files from CTAN, it would be nice to put the
> missing modules there.
> What is the correct way to do that?
>
> I ask because I want to give a tutorial about ConTeXt at the Dante meeting
> in april and it would be nice to tell the audience that everything they need
> is already part of TeX Live and no extra installation is required.
>
> Axel
> --
> Man sollte das mal mit ConTeXt betrachten.
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