# [NTG-context] bibtex: crossref / van

Rob Ermers r.ermers at hccnet.nl
Sun Nov 20 23:03:26 CET 2005

Thanks Taco,

I got it working. Thanks.

In the mean time, now the reference works, I got another nasty  problem.
In my file there is a reference from A to B. Both titles are printed OK.
However, the reference to B. does not  print all right. The culprit is
Ye{{\c{s}}}ilg{\"o}z, Y{{\"u}}cel

I tried different ways to solve this by putting, but alas!
Does anyone know how to solve this?

Kind regards,

Robert

A.
@INCOLLECTION{harchaoui-yesilgoz2003,
author = {Y{\"u}cel Ye{\c{s}}ilg\"oz and Sadik Harchaoui},
title = {Hoe vang ik een vlieg},
booktitle={Vliegen vangen},
year = {2003},
pages= {59-85},
crossref={bovenkerk-komen2003},
}

B
@BOOK{bovenkerk-komen2003,
editor ="Bovenkerk, Frank and Komen, Mieke and Ye{{\c{s}}}ilg{\"o}z,
Y{{\"u}}cel",
title ={Vliegen vangen},
publisher = {Boom},
year = {2003},
}

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>> I have made an error in that example. It should be
>>
>>   \setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\placepublications}
>>
>> without the outer braces. Sorry about that (the next release will try
>> to fix the \crossref).
>
>
> It is one of those days where nothing goes right ... a) this is still
> the wrong solution (should have been a \vbox instead of a \hbox), but
> also b) this will not work with the new betas, because they handle the
> list placement differently. :-(
>
> So, the only way right now to get the effect of \crossref, is to find
> the \crossref-ed items that are missing and \cite them by hand in a
> non-displayed box, like so:
>
>   \setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\cite[bovenkerk-komen2003]}
>
> sorry, I messed that up. Like I said earlier: the next release will
> definately fix the actual \crossref, and then all of these silly tricks
> will become unnecessary.
>
>>> 2.
>>> I also have problems with sorting author names like Van den Heuvel.
>>> Under Latex I used \noopsort, but this does not seem to work under
>>> Context
>>
>>
>
> This problem was somewhat the reverse of Giuseppe's. The actual
> sort order in the bbl is fine, but it failed because the alternative=
> and sorttype= commands were both in a single \setuppublications
> command, and as a result the sorttype= was ignored completely.
>
> I altered your example document to:
>
>   \setuppublications
>      [alternative=apanl]
>
>   \setuppublications
>      [sorttype=bbl,
>       refcommand=authoryear]
>
> and that made the list come out OK (except for using the english
> version of the bibl-apa, since I do not have your dutch one ;-))
>
> Also, if you have the latest beta (1008) there is another bug you
> should be aware of. in the definition of \doAU, there is a
> \doifempty, where there should be a \doifemptyelse, like so:
>
> \def\doAU#1,#2%
>   {\doifemptyelse{#2}
>       {#1\bibalternative{otherstext}}
>       {#1\bibalternative{andtext}#2}}
>
>
> I am sorry about all these issues, but at least it should be clear
> why it is a beta ... :-/
>
> Greetings, Taco
>
>
>
>
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