[NTG-context] Fwd: (Classical) greek in ConTeXt/Gamma [please forward]

Thomas A.Schmitz thomas.schmitz at uni-bonn.de
Mon Jul 26 19:52:35 CEST 2004

Well, this is pretty old news, so I'm not sure if a reply is still 
called for; whatever, here comes: I'm not quite sure why Giuseppe is 
trying to use eomega instead of plain ole pdftex. I mean, you're not 
writing Greek in Unicode, right? If you're still interested, drop me a 
line, I have a home-cooked Greek package for ConTeXt which works very 
well on my box (which is teTeX on Mac OS X); I could send you the 
files. And the iota subscript is usuall done with an | after the vowel, 
as in a|. The combination =A (alpha with circumflex) does not occur in 
classical Greek without a breathing, but <r and <A definitely ought to 


On Jul 26, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> Idris sent me this asking me to forward it. My reply follows.
> ===8<==============Original message text===============
> Hi Giuseppe,
> I was digging in the archives and came across this; I don't think I 
> ever saw
> this message (must have been busy at the time). Did you ever get an 
> answer?
> I'm sure that editing the otp's will get you the result u wanted quite 
> easily,
> but in the year since u wrote this u've probably figured that out 
> already:-)
> Best
> Idri
> [NTG-context] (Classical) greek in ConTeXt/Gamma
> Giuseppe Bilotta ntg-context at ntg.nl
> Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:40:35 +0200
> Hello,
> I don't know if Idris is following the group (I hope he is), but
> anyway I have a couple of questions on the support for Greek in
> ConTeXt, Omega and thus also Gamma.
> The need is that of typesetting classical greek snippets in a
> latin (Italian, but could be English) context. I thought that
> ConTeXt+(e-)Omega would be the best thing in town, so I prepared a
> small test file:
> \usemodule[gamma]
> \mainlanguage[italian]
> \starttext
> Possiamo scrivere tranquillamente in italiano; questo non ci priva
> per\`o della possibilit\`a di scrivere in greco: vediamo subito
> l'alfabeto minuscolo e maiuscolo (notare come j dia \greek{j}
> e c dia il sigma di fine parola \greek{c}):
> \startgreek
> a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
> A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
> \stopgreek
> \`E ovviamente possibile usare segni diacritici come gli accenti
> (\greek{`a, 'a, =a}) o gli spiriti (\greek{<r, >w}); osserviamo
> come questi assumano automaticamente la posizione corretta nel
> caso di lettere maiuscole (\greek{`A, 'A, =A, <A, >A, Ai})
> \stoptext
> While it seems to work pretty well most of the time, there seem to
> be some problems; I'd like to know where they arise from and if
> and how they can be fixed. The problems:
> Combination               Doesn't give
>   <r                       rho with spirit
>   =A                       capital alpha with circumflex
>   <A                       capital alpha with spirit
> Moreover, I don't know how to write the subscribed iota. My system
> is a MiKTeX 2.2 with (e-)Omega 1.15. Does anybody have an idea?
> -- 
> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
> ===8<===========End of original message text===========
> My reply:
> Well, I'm pretty sure the bug is in the OTPs that come with
> Omega (which is pretty funny, considering that Yannis *is*
> Greek ...). I guess that when the rougher edges in Aleph are
> fixed we'll start correcting the OCPs :)
> -- 
> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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