[dev-context] new web site

Taco Hoekwater taco at elvenkind.com
Sat Oct 2 09:41:47 CEST 2004

Hi Hans,

I just went there and had a look around. I like the look of
the new site, but of course I have comments. Then again, I assume
that is why it was on dev-context in the first place :)

Here we go:

- Assuming most of the CSS is 'frozen', you could move that into 
  a separate style.css file and linking to that. It will save you
  on traffic and it makes it easier to use a different CSS file 
  for IE (if desired). The best 'real' solution for IE and older 
  browsers would (no doubt) be to use frames.

- In my browser (a galeon based on mozilla 1.4), the main download
  window and the 'documents and examples' window force a 
  horizontal scrollbar to appear (the table is wider than it's 
  allocated space). Will check with a newer browser on monday,
  but the problem will probably remain as long as there are
  table tags. 'position: absolute' and html tables do not blend 
  well, is my experience.

- The 'pod' login page is a bit different from the rest, I assume
  that is on purpose, but I thought I'd better ask j.i.k.

- it would be nice if it was clear from the outset that the
  'showcase' is a pdf file. Or perhaps make it pop up a window
  of it's own? It destroys the layout which is a pity.

- the 'next-previous' buttons give no visual indication of how 
  'large' the loop is nor on what page of the loop you are,
  and I miss that. Perhaps a color-bar as in some of the s-pre 

- Fianlly, all pages have the title "Generated page", which is 
  correct but somewhat pointless.

Greetings and good luck,


On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:25:29 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma at wxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> At http://www.pragma-ade.com:8069 you can find a preview of the new 
> pragma web site. It works ok with firefox, kind of ok with opera, ok at 
> the cost of some mess with internet explorer, not optimal with safari 
> but ...
> ... the nice thing is that i now generate the whole lot from a small set 
> of xml documents using xslt, so that i can more easily maintain the site 
> + links; the next/previous buttons work as in pdf docs -)
> if you click the 'exa' link, you will get a few interfaces
> currently it runs on our old web server [some 500 mhz celeron machine]; 
> in a couple of week it will run on one of our new web servers (2.2 gig 
> 64 bit opterons)
> i cross my fingers that the webrick based http server (ruby) can handle 
> things (i'll run the webpages on apache as well)
> Hans
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