I'm so sorry, but I found some incompatibilities in pdfetex in dvi mode. My silly test, attached in il1test.zip, or in case that the mailer could remove it, available from ftp:/ftp.gust.org.pl/TeX/GUST/test/il1test.zip can show you that some primitives give strange output, e.g. not expected headlines and footers using pdfetex based latex format. This example can be compared with 'latex' or 'pdflatex' from TeX Live 2003 against the *current* stuff from P4 depot (pdf(e)tex 1.20b-2.1). Ps. Martin, your 'Bye' was rejected, so I'd still like to hear your opinions. Best, -- Staszek Wawrykiewicz StaW@gust.org.pl