Currently a character is protruded if its rpcode/lpcode is set and it can be reached from the margin by skipping skippable items. These items are various kerns, glues, empty boxes etc. always with width 0pt. Maybe this could be extended by adding up the horizontal movements of non-zero kerns, non-stretchable glues etc. and when a protrudable character is reached and the total movement to there would be 0pt, the character would still be protruded. E. g. protrusion could happen after a \kern1sp\kern-1sp pair or after \kern1sp\hskip-1sp. Would this make sense? E. g. Robert told that (cancelling?) kerns are sometimes used as markers... Or, what if one would completely ignore/skip over all invisible items (kerns, non-stretchable glues, even with width != 0pt) and would just shift the first protrudable character? This would mean, that indented characters would be also protruded relative to indentation. Regards, Hartmut
Hi Hartmut Is it true that \pdfmapline{} acts like \pdfmapfile{} ? isn't the intended behaviour: \pdfmapline{} -> ignore \pdfmapfile{} -> resets all map file entries Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Hans, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, h h extern wrote:
Is it true that \pdfmapline{} acts like \pdfmapfile{} ?
yes. The timing of both commands is the same, and the argument string for \pdfmapline is handled nearly like a filename, only that it later is scanned as if coming from a nameless mapfile with a single mapline only. Both commands come also with similarly functioning qualifiers +-=. I thought that would help for consistency.
isn't the intended behaviour:
\pdfmapline{} -> ignore \pdfmapfile{} -> resets all map file entries
Not for me, maybe i have misunderstood you. Sure it's easy to change that an empty \pdfmapline{} would just be ignored. You prefer this? Regards, Hartmut (now slowly trying \pdffontenc & friends, stay tuned :-)
Hartmut Henkel wrote:
Hi Hans,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, h h extern wrote:
Is it true that \pdfmapline{} acts like \pdfmapfile{} ?
yes. The timing of both commands is the same, and the argument string for \pdfmapline is handled nearly like a filename, only that it later is scanned as if coming from a nameless mapfile with a single mapline only. Both commands come also with similarly functioning qualifiers +-=. I thought that would help for consistency.
isn't the intended behaviour:
\pdfmapline{} -> ignore \pdfmapfile{} -> resets all map file entries
Not for me, maybe i have misunderstood you. Sure it's easy to change that an empty \pdfmapline{} would just be ignored. You prefer this?
yes, although it does not really matter when it's known behaviour; it's just that i ran into a situation where the mapline was empty and was puzzled about errors [\pdfresetmaplist would be even better combined with ignored empty cases, but it's too late for that now]
Regards, Hartmut
(now slowly trying \pdffontenc & friends, stay tuned :-)
good! Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi pdftex developers, sorry for being quiet for a long time -- I was having too much fun and forgot about work :). Just got access to Internet using my linux box from yesterday and have downloaded all mails from ntg-pdftex ml. Will take some time before I read all of them :) Regards, Thanh
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, The Thanh Han wrote:
Hi pdftex developers,
sorry for being quiet for a long time -- I was having too much fun and forgot about work :).
... ... Herr und Meister! hör mich rufen! - Lord and master, hear me crying! - Ach, da kommt der Meister! Ah, he comes excited. Herr, die Not ist groß! Sir, my need is sore. Die ich rief, die Geister Spirits that I've cited werd ich nun nicht los. My commands ignore. Regards, Hartmut :-)
"Hartmut" == Hartmut Henkel
writes:
Herr und Meister! hör mich rufen! - Lord and master, hear me crying! - Ach, da kommt der Meister! Ah, he comes excited. Herr, die Not ist groß! Sir, my need is sore. Die ich rief, die Geister Spirits that I've cited werd ich nun nicht los. My commands ignore.
Thanh, this is an extract of Goethe's ballade "Der Zauberlehrling" (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) written in 1797. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zauberlehrling Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832) was by far the most famous German poet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe And during his trip to the Harz mountains (1783-1785) he visited the same hotel as you did during the DANTE-2000 at Clausthal. BTW., he complained about the bad weather, and you certainly know why. Do you remember? Cheers, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-4592165 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:00:24PM +0200, Reinhard Kotucha wrote:
"Hartmut" == Hartmut Henkel
writes: Herr und Meister! hör mich rufen! - Lord and master, hear me crying! - Ach, da kommt der Meister! Ah, he comes excited. Herr, die Not ist groß! Sir, my need is sore. Die ich rief, die Geister Spirits that I've cited werd ich nun nicht los. My commands ignore.
:)
Thanh, this is an extract of Goethe's ballade "Der Zauberlehrling" (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) written in 1797.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zauberlehrling
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832) was by far the most famous German poet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe
And during his trip to the Harz mountains (1783-1785) he visited the same hotel as you did during the DANTE-2000 at Clausthal.
BTW., he complained about the bad weather, and you certainly know why. Do you remember?
certainly :) Cheers, Thanh
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h h extern
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Hans Hagen
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Hartmut Henkel
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Reinhard Kotucha
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The Thanh Han