Hans Hagen wrote: On 1/27/2019 10:00 PM, Ross Moore wrote: PDFs are now editable, at least in Acrobat Pro. weren't they always, given fonts being available? They were always trivially editable; now they are very powerfully editable indeed. Before, an edit could not change the overall bounding box of that particular stretch of text, so one was very restricted in what one can do. Now the bounding box can be re-sized, even moved — Adobe Acrobat DC is a very powerful tool for editing PDFs. i never edit pdf documents (ok, i remember that once i had to strip stuff in order to get a logo, but not adding something) I frequently do, since many "forms" that are sent out are intended to be completed by hand; I simply complete them using AADC. imo editing a pdf makes no sense (and reflow even less) ... also, with respect to fonts, editing assumes all glyphs being present and with open type fonts one also enters a feature mess and gsub/gpos are not embedded All I can say is that since using AADC, editing PDFs has become a real pleasure. ** Phil. -- <Signature> Philip Taylor