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[ pdftex-Patches-434 ] Remove queued map item handling
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #434, was opened at 2005-10-13 01:08 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=434&group_id=106 Category: Fonts >Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) >Assigned to: Taco Hoekwater (taco) Summary: Remove queued map item handling Initial Comment: Remove queued map item handling from mapfile.c ============================================== Formerly all items from \pdfmapfile{+-=mapfile} or \pdfmapline{+-=mapline} were queued up in a list until the next font was selected; then the whole list was processed, e. g. all queued mapfiles or maplines read in. When one gave \pdfmapfile{mapfile} or \pdfmapline{mapline} without +-=, the pending list was cleared. The only practical use for this was to prevent reading in the default mapfile. But this can be done simpler, without queuing. With this patch all \pdfmapfile{+-=mapfile} or \pdfmapline{+-=mapline} requests are processed completely and immediately without queuing, which means that if e. g. a \pdfmapfile{+-=mapfile} primitive is scanned, the mapfile will be read in right away. This happens independently from selecting a font. When \pdfmapfile{+-=mapfile} or \pdfmapline{+-=mapline} is scanned, and there is a default mapfile, it is read first and then the mapfile. Reading of the default mapfile can be disabled by \pdfmapfile{} or \pdfmapline{} or \pdfmapfile{mapfile} or \pdfmapline{mapline} without +-= as long as the default mapfile hasn't already been read in. Latest when the first font is requested, the default mapfile will be read, if this hasn't already been disabled by the mentioned primitives. Apart from possibly reading the default mapfile, there is no other action when a font is requested, since the \pdfmapfile{+-=mapfile} or \pdfmapline{+-=mapline} primitives have already acted right away when they were called. The effects of this patch are the following: * Initial mapfile reading still can be blocked in the usual way. * The difficult to describe queuing mechanism has gone, code gets simpler. * Mapfile reading happens directly by the primitives. * Therefore it's possible to use \pdfretval with the primitives, to check success of the mapfile/line reading (not yet implemented). * As the return value is connected to the \pdfmapfile or \pdfmapline call, one can easier implement other map setting primitives and give them return values. This was not possible before, as the queuing was inbetween. * For any standard use, the patch should be compatible to the former queuing method. The mapfile.c is a patched version of the mapfile.c from Thanh's subfont patch pdftex-20050924.patch.gz for pdftex-1.30.3. Hope it doesn't sound too messy :-) For discussion. Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=434&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-432 ] Rules in a PDF qQ group
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #432, was opened at 2005-10-06 21:01 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=432&group_id=106 Category: Positioning >Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) >Assigned to: Hans Hagen (hagen) Summary: Rules in a PDF qQ group Initial Comment: Put rules with their positioning on the page inside a qQ group. Should make \pdfliteral page {...} behave consistently after text or rules or images, as then any positioning starts from the PDF origin; no delta-positioning anymore. It's already being tested in pdfluatex. Just to have it at sarovar... Testing welcome, particularily with text and graphics transforms by graphicx package, to spot backward incompatibilities, if any... Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Date: 2005-10-09 15:07 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=929 Update pdf_set_origin_temp: Now has (h, v) parameters. Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=432&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-427 ] Character positioning patch
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #427, was opened at 2005-09-11 12:39 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=427&group_id=106 Category: Positioning >Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) >Assigned to: Hans Hagen (hagen) Summary: Character positioning patch Initial Comment: Experimental patch increases resolution of /Widths array by 1 fractional digit, makes corrections of type ")-1(" and ")1(" in the TJ array happen much less often, particularily for CM fonts. Gives e. g. 1 % PDF file size shrink for pdfetex web sources compiled into PDF. Rough patch only, not for production. Testing welcome. Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Date: 2005-10-09 15:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=929 Patch extended: Now pdf_set_origin has (h, v) parameters, simplifies pdf_begin_text procedure. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Date: 2005-10-09 00:25 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=929 Removed pdf_first_space_corr variable, as it seems that it was defunct anyway: There was no pdf_end_string procedure call (only place where something is done with pdf_first_space_corr), where afterwards the pdf_h variable (then modified by pdf_first_space_corr) would actually be used. E. g. pdf_moveto uses pdf_last_h instead, and after pdf_end_text there is anyway a pdf_set_origin call. And pdf_begin_string gets simpler. Testing welcome! Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Date: 2005-10-03 01:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=929 patch updated: now the TJ array building in procedure pdf_begin_string is simplified/tidied up. Testing welcome! Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=427&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-416 ] new primitive pdflastlink
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #416, was opened at 2005-08-19 09:42 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=416&group_id=106 Category: Primitives Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Ralf Utermann (ralfu) >Assigned to: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Summary: new primitive pdflastlink Initial Comment: This patch implements a new primitive \pdflastlink (analogous to \pdflastannot) which returns the object number of the last object created with \pdfstartlink. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=416&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-415 ] various extensions and fixes
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #415, was opened at 2005-08-19 09:09 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=415&group_id=106 Category: Primitives Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: The Thanh Han (hanthethanh) Assigned to: Martin Schröder (oneiros) Summary: various extensions and fixes Initial Comment: This is a patch for various experimental extensions: - \pdfinsertht: return the height of an insert (requested by Hans); this has similar syntax to \pdftexrevision. - do not fail when \pdfobj is used with an invalid object number (requested by Hans) - snapping: support for grid typesetting -- see snap.txt for details - kern before space: allow changing interword glues in a flexible way and inserting a kern before certain characters -- see kern-before-interword-glue.txt for details The notes in snap.txt and kern-before-interword-glue.txt are from email correspondence with people interested in; hence these notes are somewhat informal, inaccurate or out-of-date. How to apply: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cd /path/to/pdftex-1.30.0-srcdir/src/texk patch -p1 < /path/to/pdftex-20050818.patch cd web2c make pdfetex ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martin Schröder (oneiros) Date: 2005-09-04 18:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=421 The patch for invalid object numbers is included in 1.30.1++ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=415&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-386 ] grow obj_tab and dest_names arrays dynamically
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #386, was opened at 2005-07-10 20:29 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=386&group_id=106 Category: Memory allocation Group: v1.30.0 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) >Assigned to: Hartmut Henkel (hhenkel) Summary: grow obj_tab and dest_names arrays dynamically Initial Comment: experimental patch to grow the obj_tab and dest_names arrays dynamically; arrays initially have 1000 entries. This required also update of file avlstuff.c. Similar to patch-366, which did this already for the pdf_mem array. Then all (?) pdftex-specific memory configuration parameters, obj_tab_size, dest_names_size, and pdf_mem_size in texmf.cnf would be ignored. Regards, Hartmut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=386&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-467 ] new primitive \ifinedef
by noreply＠sarovar.org 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Patches item #467, was opened at 2006-01-10 05:32 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=467&group_id=106 >Category: Primitives >Group: v1.40.0 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Rejected >Priority: 3 Submitted By: The Thanh Han (hanthethanh) >Assigned to: The Thanh Han (hanthethanh) Summary: new primitive \ifinedef Initial Comment: This patch (by Morten Høgholm) contains improvement for the \ifincsname primitive and implements a new similar primitive \ifinedef. Made against pdftex-1.40.0-alpha-20060106 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Martin Schröder (oneiros) Date: 2006-01-17 22:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=421 Needs further discussion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=467&group_id=106

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[ pdftex-Patches-469 ] \currentexpansionmode + \ifalignscanning - \ifinedef
by noreply＠sarovar.org 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Patches item #469, was opened at 2006-01-12 02:39 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=469&group_id=106 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Morten Høgholm (morten) Assigned to: Nobody (None) Summary: \currentexpansionmode + \ifalignscanning - \ifinedef Initial Comment: Here's a patch made against pdftex-1.40.0-alpha-20060111. It removes the \ifinedef primitive for a different primitive, namely \currentexpansionmode. This read-only register is 0 when doing regular typesetting, 1 when inside \edef or \xdef and 2 in other cases of full expansion with scan_toks. It could possibly be extended to distinguish between \marks and \write etc. Comments more than welcome on this one! I have also added an \ifalignscanning test. It is true whenever TeX is looking for \noalign etc. so is most useful for a \stopalignscanning function defined as \def\stopalignscanning{\ifalignscanning\relax\fi} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Morten Høgholm (morten) Date: 2006-01-16 21:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=3333 @None: An \ifalignscanning primitive can also help macros like LaTeX's \multicolumn and other code that relies on seeing \noalign or \omit to recover gracefully with a comprehensible error message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Morten Høgholm (morten) Date: 2006-01-13 05:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=3333 Yes, just ideas here, which is why I asked for comments. We can discuss this on the list (once my subscription is accepted). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Taco Hoekwater (taco) Date: 2006-01-12 11:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608 Like Hans, I also prefer separate if primitives, mainly because I do not want to have to remember the meanings of the possible integer values (for that reason, I'm not too happy about \currentgrouptype either). Taco ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody (None) Date: 2006-01-12 10:14 Message: Logged In: NO i wonder why we need \ifalignscanning or \stopalignscanner at all when eTeX already has this feature - any \protected macro stops the scanning. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans Hagen (hagen) Date: 2006-01-12 09:08 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=927 somehow i think that if's are a better idea than a register because in your case the register only registers one case at the same time (when i saw this patch the first time, i wondered why not a complete set was implemented) - ifincsname - ifinedef - ifinwrite - ifinspecial - ifinpdfliteral - ifinannotbody - ifinmessage (special case of write) - ifinalign - ifinmark probably some more (ok, normally all those conditions can comfortably be catched in a macro package but if we add them, we should be complete in addition to this there can be a register which keeps track of the innermost one (we can have ifcsname inside an edef inside an align concerning the \stopalignscanner i think it's better to have something primitive like \crcr, say \endalign because using if's can have its own problem (we should not worry to much about a name clash, since one can always let it to another one); so, we should wait with adding this patches till (1) we agree and (2) it is complete remark: also, it's dangerous to add patched before a decent decission/interface is dediced upon; once it's in, we cannot change it any more Hans ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=469&group_id=106

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Re: [pdftex] Math Pdftex extensions ?
by Hans Hagen 15 Jan '06

15 Jan '06

Paul Pichaureau wrote: > Dear all, > > As I'm a fanatic a beautiful typography, I'm following your work on >pdftex with great attention, especially enjoying the pdftex extensions >already implemented (microtype and all the hz stuff). > > Anyway, I'm wondering if you plan to extend pdftex in order to >improve the mathematical typography of TeX. I'm developping a big set >of mathematical fonts (called mathdesign) and I'm quite aware of the >problems of TeX in this domain. > >I've precise points in mind: mathematical accents, radical with left >and right delimiters, and, of course, the insufficiencies of the tfm >format. But you already know that better than me. > >So, this is my question: is it planned to improve some of these points >in the future ? > > if you can point out the specific things that you want to be supported, the pdftex dev team can look into it after all, pdftex is also a playground for new tex functionality (within reasonable bounds) Hans

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[ pdftex-Patches-469 ] \currentexpansionmode + \ifalignscanning - \ifinedef
by noreply＠sarovar.org 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

Patches item #469, was opened at 2006-01-12 02:39 You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=469&group_id=106 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Morten Høgholm (morten) Assigned to: Nobody (None) Summary: \currentexpansionmode + \ifalignscanning - \ifinedef Initial Comment: Here's a patch made against pdftex-1.40.0-alpha-20060111. It removes the \ifinedef primitive for a different primitive, namely \currentexpansionmode. This read-only register is 0 when doing regular typesetting, 1 when inside \edef or \xdef and 2 in other cases of full expansion with scan_toks. It could possibly be extended to distinguish between \marks and \write etc. Comments more than welcome on this one! I have also added an \ifalignscanning test. It is true whenever TeX is looking for \noalign etc. so is most useful for a \stopalignscanning function defined as \def\stopalignscanning{\ifalignscanning\relax\fi} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Morten Høgholm (morten) Date: 2006-01-13 05:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=3333 Yes, just ideas here, which is why I asked for comments. We can discuss this on the list (once my subscription is accepted). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Taco Hoekwater (taco) Date: 2006-01-12 11:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608 Like Hans, I also prefer separate if primitives, mainly because I do not want to have to remember the meanings of the possible integer values (for that reason, I'm not too happy about \currentgrouptype either). Taco ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody (None) Date: 2006-01-12 10:14 Message: Logged In: NO i wonder why we need \ifalignscanning or \stopalignscanner at all when eTeX already has this feature - any \protected macro stops the scanning. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans Hagen (hagen) Date: 2006-01-12 09:08 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=927 somehow i think that if's are a better idea than a register because in your case the register only registers one case at the same time (when i saw this patch the first time, i wondered why not a complete set was implemented) - ifincsname - ifinedef - ifinwrite - ifinspecial - ifinpdfliteral - ifinannotbody - ifinmessage (special case of write) - ifinalign - ifinmark probably some more (ok, normally all those conditions can comfortably be catched in a macro package but if we add them, we should be complete in addition to this there can be a register which keeps track of the innermost one (we can have ifcsname inside an edef inside an align concerning the \stopalignscanner i think it's better to have something primitive like \crcr, say \endalign because using if's can have its own problem (we should not worry to much about a name clash, since one can always let it to another one); so, we should wait with adding this patches till (1) we agree and (2) it is complete remark: also, it's dangerous to add patched before a decent decission/interface is dediced upon; once it's in, we cannot change it any more Hans ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sarovar.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=495&aid=469&group_id=106

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