On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:05:36AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:

Paul Tremblay wrote:

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Has anyone else had problems with hyphenation? I have a brand new version of ConTeXt, and cannot get one of its main features, hyphenation, to work.

I looked at the documentation, specifically the file called hypenation patterns. According to this, I should be able to invoke a took called ctxtools, or at least a tool called texmfstart ctxtools. Neither tool exists with my distribution.

I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also didn't work.

did you run mktexlsr ?

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I am at a loss, and I consider hyphenation pretty important. How do I proceed from here?

another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the formats (with --all option)

Where is this? I just spent 20 minutes searching the website. Paul

i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns)

Hans

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Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************

On 19 Mar 2005 11:11:52 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Hello folks,

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http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip

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Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right?

I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is because I run yet another ConTeXt mirror at

http://mirror.contextgarden.net

When I click over the link "dir" http://mirror.contextgarden.net/dir I see: Not Found The requested URL /dir was not found on this server.

another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the formats (with --all option)

i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 towards shipping context with its own instances of patterns)

I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following directory in my texmf directory: .tex/context/patterns I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all. I then ran texexec test.tex. Still no hyphenation. My log file is below. Thanks Paul This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 2005.2.20) 18 MAR 2005 19:55 entering extended mode %&-line parsing enabled. (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) **&cont-en test.tex (./test.tex ConTeXt ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.20 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! color : palette rollover is available system (E-TEX) : [line 878] system (E-TEX) : [line 933] ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns de->texnansi:texnansi->3->2:2 de->ec:ec->4->2:2 fr-> texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 fr->ec:ec->6->2:2 es->default:default->7->2:2 it->tex nansi:texnansi->8->2:2 it->ec:ec->9->2:2 nl->texnansi:texnansi->10->2:2 nl->ec: ec->11->2:2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded \openout2 = `test.tui'. system : test.top loaded (./test.top) \openout0 = `test-mpgraph.mp'. \openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'. (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) fonts : using map file: texnansi-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-public-vnr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-csr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-plr.map fonts : using map file: original-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-ams-euler.map fonts : using map file: original-ams-cmr.map fonts : using map file: texnansi-base.map fonts : using map file: t5-base.map fonts : using map file: qx-base.map fonts : using map file: 8r-base.map fonts : using map file: ec-base.map fonts : using map file: ec-public-lm.map fonts : using map file: original-base.map systems : begin file test at line 12 (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/page-run.tex loading : Context Page Macros / Runtime Macros ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/sample/tufte.tex) Overfull \hbox (2.48778pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--34 \*12ptmmmr* our marvelous and everyday capacity to select, edit, \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\*12ptmmmr* o .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* r .\glue 3.91663 plus 1.95831 minus 1.30554 .\*12ptmmmr* m .etc. Overfull \hbox (16.65291pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--34 \*12ptmmmr* reduce, boil down, choose, categorize, catalog, classify, \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\*12ptmmmr* r .\*12ptmmmr* e .\*12ptmmmr* d .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* c .etc. (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex [4.4]) Overfull \hbox (7.28357pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 12--34 []\*12ptmmmr* But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly \hbox(8.33331+2.33331)x256.07481, glue set - 1.0 .\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 .\*12ptmmmr* B .\*12ptmmmr* u .\*12ptmmmr* t .\glue 3.91663 plus 1.95831 minus 1.30554 .etc. A LOT OF OTHER OVERFILL MESSAGES WHICH I CUT OUT [5.5] [6.6] systems : end file test at line 37 ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 691 strings out of 62989 11662 string characters out of 668839 4464250 words of memory out of 5506310 35404 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 10284 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 1000000 for 2000 82 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 39i,20n,52p,181b,433s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,40000s 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 Output written on test.dvi (6 pages, 17272 bytes). -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************

On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 09:03:08AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following directory in my texmf directory:

.tex/context/patterns

I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all.

At this point, you missed a step:

texexec --make

I just ran texexec --make Same. No hyphenation. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************

Hi Paul, All of this must be maddening you by now. :'(

system (E-TEX) : [line 159] \ifcsname ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ger.tex loading : Germanic Languages language : patterns for nl not loaded language : patterns for en not loaded

Mine does that as well, but somewhat deeper in the log file, it restarts loading patterns, like this: (./cont-fmt.tex language : patterns nl for nl loaded(n=1,e=texnansi,m=texnansi) (/home/taco/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-nl.pat) language : hyphenations nl for nl loaded ... culminating in : 210 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 117 for language 34 31 for language 33 ....<30 lines or so, counting down> .. 265 for language 1 perhaps you also need to get the cont-tmf.zip from 'latest'? Mine has ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 int: english mes: english Good luck! Taco

Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:58:10 -0500:

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210 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 117 for language 34 31 for language 33 ....<30 lines or so, counting down> .. 265 for language 1

perhaps you also need to get the cont-tmf.zip from 'latest'? Mine has

ConTeXt ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 int: english mes: english

Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought I was getting somewhere.

So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test file? Can you strip it to its barest form? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:20:10 -0500:

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So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test file? Can you strip it to its barest form?

Here is the entire file. Luckily, it is very small.

That does show a fair bit of hyphenation, here. Taco says some wise things, and here are a couple things to insert at the beginning of your text that may help debug. (But, again, I'm no expert in this area.) \the\hyphenpenalty % (50 on my system) \showhyphenations{hypertextual} -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Paul Tremblay wrote:

Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought I was getting somewhere.

You are getting somewhere. The format files that have been created by texexec in that last 'texexec --make' know how to hyphenate text. There is only one job left to do: making it so that 'texexec test' uses the right (new) format file (and not the old one). Without exact log files, I doubt I can sort that out for you, but assuming you ran 'texexec --make' today, then 'texexec -version' should report the following date info: context : ver: 2005.03.16 cont-en : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: english cont-nl : ver: 2005.03.16 fmt: 2005.3.19 mes: dutch if not, some files need to be copied. Good luck, Taco

Hi Paul, [...]

texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) context : ver: 2005.01.31 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.20 mes: english

So your format with the new patterns is not used. You generated the format Feb. 20 and downloaded the patters a few days ago. What happens if you run texexec --make --alone and copy the cont-en.fmt (or whatever it is called now) into the 'correct' path? Or leave it in the path that your test file is in and try the \showhyphenations{hypertextual} again. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Hi Paul, there should be some cont-en.fmt somewhere on your disk. Like /usr/local/texmf/web2c/context/cont-en.fmt, but this is just a wild guess. So you could copy your newly generated cont-en.fmt over the old one. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Hello Paul, [...]

So everything works fine now.

Good to hear.

I assume that future versions of ConTeXt will install this file correctly?

That should have been the case anyway. Can't tell you what went wrong. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

The best I can get is \starttext \useexternalfigure[myfigure][filename][width=1in] \placetable[here][tab:2figures]{none} \starttable[|c|c|] \NC \placefigure[here]{My Caption 1}{\externalfigure[myfigure]} \NC \placefigure[here]{My Caption 1}{\externalfigure[myfigure]} \NC \FR \stoptable \stoptext But something in \placefigure produces undesired glue so that the figures end up in the margins. Somebody else? Matthias On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Peter wrote:

Dear list,

How can I place two figures next to each other without using a \startcombination ... \stopcombination group?

I now have this, but it is not what I want:

\gebruikexternfiguur[kortoctaaf][cekort][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] \gebruikexternfiguur[gebrokenoctaaf][gebroken][type=eps,hoogte=30mm] \plaatsfiguur [hier] [fig:klavieren] {Enkele varianten van het groot octaaf} {\startcombinatie[2*1] {\kortoctaaf}{kort octaaf} {\gebrokenoctaaf}{gebroken octaaf} \stopcombinatie}

I want to have the two figures numbered as seperate, independent figures, but when using a combination, the whole combination is treated as one figure and gets only one number and one label.

XXXX XXXX X X X X XXXX XXXX

fig.n fig.n+1

I've consulted the manuals and searched the list archives, but I have not found a solution.

tnx in advance,

Peter van Kranenburg

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Hans Hagen wrote:

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I do have a file called hyphen.tex. On Hans' suggestion, I copied this to ushyph1.tex and ushyph2.tex. That didn't help. I also changed my cont-usr.tex file, changing all lines that had ushyp* to hyphen. This also didn't work.

did you run mktexlsr ?

And in case that's unexpected: You need to run texexec --make, since patterns are loaded at format generation. Christopher