Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom)
Dear Tom, I am sorry that my experience is not help for you. I am usning Mac OS X. I just downloaded first-setup.sh and run it. Then it installs minimal and makes formats well. Minimal's current version: 2011.02.25 22:03 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 However, I believe that Mojca's suggestion will relieve you from the install problem. Hope you succeed to install stable ConTeXt. Best regards, Dalyoung
Dalyoung, To the contrary, You have been most helpful. Installing the latest version of Minimals worked fine but I wonder why they even advertise that there is a stable version to be downloaded. I guess they mean a stable version of MKII. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug? Thank you for your assistance and moral support. For awhile I thought I was going nuts. Tom Benjey 717-258-9733 voice 717-243-0074 fax blog: www.TomBenjey.com -----Original Message----- From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Jeong Dalyoung Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 5:16 AM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Is Minimals ready for non-developers to use? (Tom) Dear Tom, I am sorry that my experience is not help for you. I am usning Mac OS X. I just downloaded first-setup.sh and run it. Then it installs minimal and makes formats well. Minimal's current version: 2011.02.25 22:03 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 However, I believe that Mojca's suggestion will relieve you from the install problem. Hope you succeed to install stable ConTeXt. Best regards, Dalyoung ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ____________________________________________________________________________ _______
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:22, Tom wrote:
Dalyoung,
To the contrary, You have been most helpful. Installing the latest version of Minimals worked fine but I wonder why they even advertise that there is a stable version to be downloaded.
When minimals were created, a new "stable" version was released approximately once a week. It used to be a problem to get the beta version working since beta often depended on a new version of luatex (which was also released every two/three weeks, but often not synchronized with ConTeXt releases). Now Hans only releases a stable version twice a year or so. The problem is that minimals have not been designed with that in mind and there is only a single version of texmfcnf.lua and only a single version of luatex binary. Consequently minimals can only work either with beta or with current when the two versions diverge, but not with both and beta has priority. I need to change the way the distribution works entirely, from the grounds up (I have many parts ready, but not ready to publish yet). An easy solution would be to create another mirror and only provide a working current version there.
I guess they mean a stable version of MKII. I had the same experience that you had with the Introduction not showing up in the TOC. Do you know how to report a bug?
You don't need to report it. I'm aware of that flaw. I could do a temporary fix, but I would prefer to fix it properly. I'm sorry that it alredy took me several years to address those issues, but I promise to fix it before the conference. Properly. You also need to keep in mind that even though it is advertized as stable, bugs won't be fixed (many project often have at least two branches of development - one for fixing the released version and one for real development; the released version should get bugfixes, but in context development that doesn't and won't happen unless some volunteer starts carefully checking the new code and only applies bugfixes to the stable version). So most people that use ConTeXt actively need bugfixes very often and the only way to get the bugs fixed is to use the latest version. Well, latest version comes with its own bugs, but at least you have a chance to get them fixed quickly. Mojca
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Jeong Dalyoung
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Mojca Miklavec
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Tom