Hi Aditya, Many thanks; see below: On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 17:23:59 -0700, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد via ntg-context wrote:

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Dear gang,

For creating/authoring content in ConTeXt: Can modes or the like be used for content control? For example, someone wants to write at least two versions of a book managed from a single file. So, e.g., we may have

a) abridged content b) unabridged content - includes a) c) abridged content + translation d) unabridged content + translation [:]

One can author and organize this in XML - pre-ConteXt - but perhaps one prefers to write in ConTeXt (take advantage of shortcuts etc.). So maybe

\defineparagraphs[unabridged] \defineparagraphs[abridged] \defineparagraphs[translation]

Then one authors the complete work in a single project, but you can produce a variety of versions, depending on the mode chosen:

\definemode[unabridged] etc.

Can one do this in context?

Yes!

This is what I do (for solutions in homework assignments):

\definebuffer[solution][local=yes,nested=yes]

\startmode[solution] \defineenumeration[solution][....fancy setup...] \stopmode

Then, in the main tex file:

.... \startsolution ... \stopsolution ....

By default, gives the version without solution. Compile with --mode=solution to get the version with solution. The same thing should work in your case by defining two modes: unabridged and translation. And then use --mode=unabridged,translate etc to get multiple modes.

Here's a working sample: ======= % \definebuffer[unabridged] % \definebuffer[abridged] \setupwhitespace[big] \starttext \startmode[unabridged] \input knuth \startblockquote \input ward \stopblockquote % \startmode[abridged] % \input knuth % \stopmode \stopmode \startmode[abridged] \input knuth \stopmode % \startmode[abridged] % \input zapf % \stopmode \stoptext ======= Unfortunately - as pointed out on the wiki - modes cannot be nested. Furthermore, each mode is unique and there is apparently no inheritance/continuance. So using this method appears to be quite unwieldy for book-length projects. What is needed is something like this \startmode[abridged] \input knuth \startmode[unabridged] \startblockquote \input ward \stopblockquote \stopmode \input zapf \stopmode That is not supported, so need to find another method - assuming there even is one. Otherwise will have to consider XML authoring and process the selected tags in ConTeXt.. Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512

Hi Hraban, Many thanks; see below: On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 04:32:56 -0700, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

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Am 17.11.2021 um 04:06 schrieb ⁨Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد via ntg-context⁩ <⁨ntg-context@ntg.nl⁩>:

You know about \startnotmode and that you can use lists of modes? \startmode[short,long] Something that appears everywhere. \stopmode \startmode[long] % or \startnotmode[short] Something that’s only in the long version. \stopmode

Many thanks; will study this.

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Unfortunately - as pointed out on the wiki - modes cannot be nested. : Why would you need that? : Can you give an example for a use case? : That looks to me like flawed logic – why should content for the unabridged version appear within the abridged version?

TeX comments will illustrate: ============== This text goes into the abridged version. % This text will appear in the unabridged version. And this text goes into the abridged version. % And this text goes into the unabridged version. And this additional text goes into the abridged version. % And this additional text goes into the unabridged version. ============== An abridged run will ignore the commented text, and an unabridged run will include it. Consider variant texts: ======= Here is some text that contains % mode=variantone includes % mode=varianttwo is comprised of % mode=variantthree some variants. Here is some more text that features % mode=variantone exhibits % mode=varianttwo illustrates % mode=variantthree some variants. ======= This example is to be processed to produce exactly three distinct results. So, e.g., "contains" and "features" belong to variantone. Etc. So like XML.

It might be a bit annoying, but you could end the previous mode before starting the next.

Assuming that I'm not misunderstanding you: For a book-length project, that would be beyond annoying.

And, as mentioned above, you can use \startmode with lists.

Will try it. Thank you again! Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:51:03 -0700, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

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TeX comments will illustrate:

============== This text goes into the abridged version.

% This text will appear in the unabridged version.

And this text goes into the abridged version.

% And this text goes into the unabridged version.

And this additional text goes into the abridged version.

% And this additional text goes into the unabridged version. ==============

An abridged run will ignore the commented text, and an unabridged run will include it.

Ok, it it’s about such small snippets, consider \doifmode{mode1,mode2}{Conditional text}.

I don’t think you would get shorter markup with nesting.

More possibilities see https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.conte...

Started there before starting this thread, but the focus appears to be global and the one and only working example near the end is pretty trivial -) But armed with the answers received here, will look at it again for ideas.

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Consider variant texts:

======= Here is some text that contains % mode=variantone includes % mode=varianttwo is comprised of % mode=variantthree some variants.

Here is some more text that features % mode=variantone exhibits % mode=varianttwo illustrates % mode=variantthree some variants. =======

This example is to be processed to produce exactly three distinct results. So, e.g., "contains" and "features" belong to variantone. Etc. So like XML.

How about:

Here is some text that \startmodeset [variantone] {contains} [varianttwo] {includes} [variantthree] {is comprised of} [default] {doesn’t contain} \stopmodeset some variants.

Very nice, many thanks! Will experiment with this method as well, comparing and contrasting with blocks and Aditya's modes method.

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It might be a bit annoying, but you could end the previous mode before starting the next. Assuming that I'm not misunderstanding you: For a book-length project, that would be beyond annoying.

Well, it looks like you’ll need a lot of markup anyway.

Indeed. And that's ok, as long as the structure is simple enough.. Occam's razor! Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:

Hi Aditya,

Many thanks; see below:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 17:23:59 -0700, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد via ntg-context wrote:

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Dear gang,

For creating/authoring content in ConTeXt: Can modes or the like be used for content control? For example, someone wants to write at least two versions of a book managed from a single file. So, e.g., we may have

a) abridged content b) unabridged content - includes a) c) abridged content + translation d) unabridged content + translation [:]

One can author and organize this in XML - pre-ConteXt - but perhaps one prefers to write in ConTeXt (take advantage of shortcuts etc.). So maybe

\defineparagraphs[unabridged] \defineparagraphs[abridged] \defineparagraphs[translation]

Then one authors the complete work in a single project, but you can produce a variety of versions, depending on the mode chosen:

\definemode[unabridged] etc.

Can one do this in context?

Yes!

This is what I do (for solutions in homework assignments):

\definebuffer[solution][local=yes,nested=yes]

\startmode[solution] \defineenumeration[solution][....fancy setup...] \stopmode

Then, in the main tex file:

.... \startsolution ... \stopsolution ....

By default, gives the version without solution. Compile with --mode=solution to get the version with solution. The same thing should work in your case by defining two modes: unabridged and translation. And then use --mode=unabridged,translate etc to get multiple modes.

Here's a working sample:

======= % \definebuffer[unabridged] % \definebuffer[abridged]

\setupwhitespace[big]

\starttext \startmode[unabridged] \input knuth

\startblockquote \input ward \stopblockquote

% \startmode[abridged] % \input knuth % \stopmode \stopmode

\startmode[abridged] \input knuth \stopmode

% \startmode[abridged] % \input zapf % \stopmode \stoptext =======

Unfortunately - as pointed out on the wiki - modes cannot be nested.

But you don't have to directly use the modes. The following will work: \definestartstop[abridged] % By default, don't show the unabridged text \definebuffer[unabridged][local=yes, nested=yes] \startmode[unabridged] % In the unabridged mode, show the abridged text \definestartstop[unabridged] \stopmode \starttext \startabridged \input knuth \startunabridged \startblockquote \input ward \stopblockquote \stopunabridged \input zapf \stopabridged Blocks are a better mechanism, but I still prefer modes here because I find the \beginblock ... \endblock syntax to be a bit awkward in a context document. Aditya

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 11:54:52 -0700, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

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Blocks are a better mechanism, but I still prefer modes here because I find the \beginblock ... \endblock syntax to be a bit awkward in a context document.

it also depends on usage ... you can have blocks and delay them or reuse them or call them up later etc .. so you can code answers with questions and then call them up in an appendix

Many thanks. Will do some comparison-and-contrast tests for research writing with both methods. The pedagogical use of blocks will certainly come in handy at some point. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512