Hi all, this is something that has made me wonder: am I doing something wrong here, or is this a bug with footnote placement? Run the attached example, look at the last 2 pages, 5 and 6. On p. 5, the footnotes run off the page area. On p. 6, why is there so much space between text area and footnote area. The reason for this somewhat exotic set-up: our publisher wanted the footnotes of the last page of every chapter to start right after the text, not at the bottom of the page. In the end, I told them I couldn't do it, and they were fine with it. But I still think it should be possible; I've looked into a number of books, and it seems a common layout in the humanities. Maybe someone has a bright idea? (Wolfgang, you answered to this problem 2 weeks ago and suggested having "aftersection={\setupnote[footnote][location=high]}" in \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? All best Thomas \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{21}{Imagine trying to live in a world dominated by dihydrogen oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and is so viable in its properties that it is generally benign but at other times swiftly lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or freeze you. In the presence of certain organic molecules it can form carbonic acids so nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and eat the faces off statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call it water.}} \setupnote[footnote][location=high]Imagine trying to live in a world dominated by dihydrogen oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and is so viable in its properties that it is generally benign but at other times swiftly lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or freeze you. In the presence of certain organic molecules it can form carbonic acids so nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and eat the faces off statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call it water.} \stoptext
On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
\setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
\setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet
So, any ETA for a fix yet :-) Thomas
On 22-7-2011 2:54, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
\setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet
So, any ETA for a fix yet :-)
soon, Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 22-7-2011 2:54, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 07/22/2011 12:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 22-7-2011 8:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
\setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet
So, any ETA for a fix yet :-)
beta uploaded ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 07/22/2011 05:33 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet
So, any ETA for a fix yet :-)
beta uploaded
Hans, thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the "high" setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior? Or: haw can I make sure it is indeed applied to one page only? Thanks, and best wishes Thomas
Am 22.07.2011 um 18:45 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:
thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the "high" setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior?
TeX was still collecting material for page 5 when you set “high” for your footnotes. Wolfgang
On 22-7-2011 6:45, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 07/22/2011 05:33 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
So maybe a bug?
yes, a side effect of having multiple note instances and not having adapted the pagebuilder yet
So, any ETA for a fix yet :-)
beta uploaded
Hans,
thanks, this looks a lot better! Nevertheless, one more question: with the example I sent, the "high" setting for footnotes always begins on the page preceding the paragraph where the \setupnote[footnote][location=high] is put into the text. Is there a rule which governs this behavior? Or: haw can I make sure it is indeed applied to one page only?
currently not, so best put it at the end of the chapter and then do a \page ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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