On 08/02/2017 07:28 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

Hi Pablo,

many thanks for your answer! I think I might have described my issue a bit vague. Just to clarify:

I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.

I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.

Sorry, Mikael, I misunderstood what you needed. I’m afraid I don’t know how to check whether you are in the chapter page or not. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :

...

I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.

I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.

I guess this is a case for setups.

\startsetups[chapterpage] \setupheadertexts[][][][] \stopsetups

\setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]

Something like this, I didn’t check.

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Thank you for your answer, Henning. I am sorry, but it does not work. The problem is that I don't have the marking text in the header, but in overlays in the margins. I tried to replace your \setupheadertexts[][][][] inside the setup with \setupbackgrounds[text][rightmargin][background=] but with no luck. But maybe you are right that one should use setups. /Mikael

On 8/3/2017 10:35 AM, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote:

Hi Pablo,

Dealing with the sample you has given to Mikael I find a difficulty on page 2 : if you replace 'Foo' and 'Bar' (three letters), by 'Introduction' and 'section', see what happen to 'section', page 2.

Here is your MWE :

\showframe \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\definemargindata[margintext:chapter] [margintext] [width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]

\defineheadalternative [margintext:chapter] [margintext] [margintext=margintext:chapter]

\definemargindata[margintext:section] [margintext] [width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]

\defineheadalternative [margintext:section] [margintext] [margintext=margintext:section]

\setuphead[chapter] [alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no] \setuphead[section] [alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]

\starttext

\chapter{Introduction} \dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}

\stoptext

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

...

Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :

...

I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.

I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.

I guess this is a case for setups.

\startsetups[chapterpage] \setupheadertexts[][][][] \stopsetups

\setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]

Something like this, I didn’t check.

\showframe \setuplayout [backspace=3cm, margin=2cm, width=middle] \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided] \definemargindata [margintext:chapter] [margintext] [width=\outermarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushouter] \defineheadalternative [margintext:chapter] [margintext] [margintext=margintext:chapter] \definemargindata[margintext:section] [margintext] [width=\innermarginwidth, location=inner, align=flushinner] \defineheadalternative [margintext:section] [margintext] [margintext=margintext:section] \setuphead [chapter] [alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no] \setuphead [section] [alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no] \starttext \chapter{Introduction} \dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par} \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 08/03/2017 06:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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[...] \definemargindata [margintext:chapter] [margintext] [width=\outermarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushouter] [...] \definemargindata[margintext:section] [margintext] [width=\innermarginwidth, location=inner, align=flushinner]

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

I didn’t know that these margin widths and aligments even existed.

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Hi, that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds on chapter pages? /Mikael

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 8/3/2017 8:11 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

...

that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds on chapter pages?

one of the many ways ...

\definelayer [chapter] [width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight]

\defineoverlay [pagebackground] [\directsetup{pagebackground}]

\setupbackgrounds [page] [background=pagebackground]

\startsetups pagebackground \doifelsemode {chapterpage} { \setlayer [chapter] [preset=middle] {\scale[width=\textwidth]{CHAPTER}} \globaldisablemode[chapterpage] } { \setlayer [chapter] [preset=middle] {\scale[width=\textwidth]{WHATEVER}} } \placelayer[chapter] \stopsetups

\startsetups chapter:before \globalenablemode[chapterpage] \stopsetups

\setuphead [chapter] [before=\setup{chapter:before}]

\starttext \chapter{foo} test \page test \chapter{bar} test \page test \stoptext

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Many thanks! It now works as expected. Just if someone finds this thread in the future, to get the texts into the margin, I ended up with something like the code below. /Mikael \showframe \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[ %alternative=doublesided, location=middle, width=10cm, backspace=2in, ] \definelayer [chapter] [width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight, location=right] \defineoverlay [pagebackground] [\directsetup{pagebackground}] \setupbackgrounds [page] [background=pagebackground] \startsetups pagebackground \doifelsemode {chapterpage} { \setlayer [chapter] [x=\dimexpr\backspace+\textwidth+\rightmargindistance\relax, y=3in, location={right,bottom}] {\getmarking[chapternumber]} \globaldisablemode[chapterpage] } { \setlayer [chapter] [x=\dimexpr\backspace+\textwidth+\rightmargindistance\relax, y=3in, location={right,bottom}] {\doifrightpageelse{\getmarking[chapter]}{}} } \placelayer[chapter] \stopsetups \startsetups chapter:before \globalenablemode[chapterpage] \stopsetups \define[2]\mychaptercommand{\midaligned{#2}} \setuphead [chapter] [align=middle,style=\tfa,align=middle,command=\mychaptercommand,before=\setup{chapter:before}] \starttext \chapter{foo} test \page test \page test \page test \chapter{bar} test \page test \page test \page test \stoptext