hi there, i have just finished reading the archives from the times when there was no \setupquotation only \setupquote i am glad that now a \setupquotation exists, but my problem seems to be that \setupquotation affects all quotations... consider the following example: \setupquotation [style=italic] \quote{I am \quotation{not} here,} he said, then he went on singing \startquotation Maybe I just want to fly\crlf I want to live I don't want to die\crlf Maybe I just want to breath\crlf Maybe I just don't believe\crlf Maybe you're the same as me\crlf We see things they'll never see\crlf You and I are gonna live forever\crlf \stopquotation all 3 quotations are in italics. i think this is incorrect... all 3 quoting styles have their place and function. \startquotation should have some \blank before and after, different margins, etc. that's what i want to set up with \setupquotation a lot of publisher make even typeset these in smaller fonts. how can i make this happen? this is really important for typesetting books, it is not? -f -- if you do nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Hi f,
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:38:03 -0600, frantisek holop
all 3 quotations are in italics. i think this is incorrect... all 3 quoting styles have their place and function.
\startquotation should have some \blank before and after, different margins, etc. that's what i want to set up with \setupquotation a lot of publisher make even typeset these in smaller fonts.
how can i make this happen? this is really important for typesetting books, it is not?
Just roll your own! Here is what i use: \definestartstop [quote] [before={\startnarrower[1*middle]\blank[big]}, after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}] This gives you the commands \startquote-\stopquote Just edit the definition to get the effect you want. And/or make new ones! Note that ConTeXt by default is rather bland. The defaults are not intended as some typographic ideal, in contrast to LaTeX. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
hmm, on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 04:01:12PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid said that
Note that ConTeXt by default is rather bland. The defaults are not intended as some typographic ideal, in contrast to LaTeX.
thanks. i realize that flexibility is a plus here, on the other hand creating macros even for the most basic functionality becomes counterproductive at some point. there are great basic building blocks in context. some of them are just not as consistent as the others :) i think consistency and 'logic' helps making the learning curve softer and work easier and faster. for example: \quote -> \setupquote \quotation -> \setupquotation \startquotation -> \setupquotationenvironment :) or some such. the problem is, that the manuals are not really verbose and help create wrong assumptions because at some places context is wonderfully 'logical' and consistent. -f -- prayers are always answered. the answer is usually no.
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