Sunday, March 23, 2003 Idris S Hamid wrote: ISH> 1. For the def. of \ALAVIband, the key, ISH> backgroundcolor=darkyellow, does not work; I still get grey. You need to specify both background=color and backgroundcolor=darkyellow, AFAIK. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Sunday, March 23, 2003 Idris S Hamid wrote:

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You need to specify both background=color and backgroundcolor=darkyellow, AFAIK.

ISH> I just tried this, now I lose the (formerly grey) background band ISH> completey; and there is no effect in the overlay: ISH> ============== ISH> \def\ALAVIband{\midaligned{ ISH> | \vbox{\hsize=15cm ISH> | \setupcolors[state=start] ISH> | \setupbackground[background=color, %%% your change ISH> | foregroundcolor=darkgreen, ISH> | backgroundcolor=darkblue ISH> | ] ISH> | \startbackground ISH> | \hbox{}\vskip14pt ISH> | \midaligned{\tfa THE ALAVI FOUNDATION} ISH> | \stopbackground ISH> | } ISH> | } ISH> | } Looks like a bug in the backgrounds system. In the mean time, what about this? \defineframed[alaviframe][ frame=off, background=color, backgroundcolor=yellow, foregroundcolor=darkgreen, align=middle, foregroundstyle=\tfa, width=15cm, ] \def\ALAVIband{% \alaviframe{\noindent\vskip14pt THE ALAVI FOUNDATION} }

At 12:07 AM 3/24/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Sunday, March 23, 2003 Idris S Hamid wrote:

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You need to specify both background=color and backgroundcolor=darkyellow, AFAIK.

ISH> I just tried this, now I lose the (formerly grey) background band ISH> completey; and there is no effect in the overlay:

ISH> ============== ISH> \def\ALAVIband{\midaligned{ ISH> | \vbox{\hsize=15cm ISH> | \setupcolors[state=start] ISH> | \setupbackground[background=color, %%% your change ISH> | foregroundcolor=darkgreen, ISH> | backgroundcolor=darkblue ^ put the, or ] here

otherwise the color is "darkblue " which is not defined Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 08:31 AM 3/25/2003 -0700, you wrote:

\defineoverlay[backgr][{\externalfigure[elements2.eps]}] \setupbackgrounds[page][leftedge][background=color, background=backgr, backgroundcolor=green]

....,background={color,backgr},.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Idris S Hamid writes:

Hello Idris,

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But what about overlays over color. They still don't work:

There are two problems here. First, say background={color,backgr} with setupbackgrounds. But this won't help ;-) since the setupbackground is sometimes a bit strange (see below).

I bet the leftedge is 0pt (test with showmakeup or my t-layout module, say \ShowModule[showmore=1]) so you won't be able to see anything colored.

I don't get this. My background image comes out at the center of the page; why doesn't the color follow suit? Anyway, \defineoverlay[backgr][{\externalfigure[elements2.eps]}] \setupbackgrounds[text][leftmargin][background={color,backgr}, backgroundcolor=green] still gives me no overlayed color.

When you use \setupbackgrounds[page]... you access the whole page (!). Not just any margin or textarea. So there you probably need some metapost hacking (easy) in order to get your green side. See the metafun manual or my page.pdf.

I don't know metapost (yet, its on my to-learn list); is there something I can do to get this solved in the meantime? Sincere Thnx to all for their help Idris

Idris S Hamid writes: Hello Idris,

I don't get this. My background image comes out at the center of the page; why doesn't the color follow suit?

\setupbackgrounds[page][ignored][background={color,backgr},backgroundcolor=blue] should give you a blue page with the backgr overlay. The following code should give you a white page with some text and a left green margin with "Picture" text. ================================================== \setupcolors[state=start] \defineoverlay[backgr][Picture] \setupbackgrounds[text][leftmargin][background={color,backgr}, backgroundcolor=green] \starttext Hello, Idris. \stoptext ==================================================

still gives me no overlayed color. you have set \setupcolors[state=start] ?

I don't know metapost (yet, its on my to-learn list); is there something I can do to get this solved in the meantime?

Yes: write exactly where you want which color (margin, edge, top.... ) and we provide you a simple metapost code :) Patrick

Idris S Hamid writes: Hello Idris and ohters,

That was the culprit, apparently.

nice to hear its working. [...]

Now the original [page] option works as expected; [text] [leftmargin] places color in the left margin. This is the working file, if any wants to play with it:

It gets spread on the whole page when I run your ConTeXt file. Strange. Patrick

At 08:42 AM 3/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: \startsetups[Aband]

\midaligned{ ^ in your current version this will lead to a funny space

\vbox{\hsize=7cm \setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackground[background=color, foregroundcolor=white, backgroundcolor=blue, ]

\startbackground \hbox{}\vskip14pt \midaligned{\tfa THE ALAVI FOUNDATION}

\stopbackground } }

\stopsetups

\setuptoptexts[\ALAVIband]

\setuptoptexts[\setups{Aband}] looks more readable and is also not sensible for spaces and empty lines Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 06:14 PM 3/25/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Idris S Hamid writes:

Hello Idris,

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But what about overlays over color. They still don't work:

There are two problems here. First, say background={color,backgr} with setupbackgrounds. But this won't help ;-) since the setupbackground is sometimes a bit strange (see below).

I bet the leftedge is 0pt (test with showmakeup or my t-layout module, say \ShowModule[showmore=1]) so you won't be able to see anything colored.

\setupbackgrounds[text][leftmargin][background={color,backgr}, backgroundcolor=green]

When you use \setupbackgrounds[page]... you access the whole page (!). Not just any margin or textarea. So there you probably need some metapost hacking (easy) in order to get your green side. See the metafun manual or my page.pdf.

it may help to know that there is a predefined path OverlayBox: \startuniqueMPgraphic{myback} fill OverlayBox withcolor red ; \stopuniqueMPgraphic or fill OverlayBox enlarged 2pt withcolor red (for a bleed) or fill OverlayBox leftenlarged 3pt ... setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox or StartPage ; ... StopPage ; if needed : setbounds currentpicture to Page ; also, you can say: \setuplayout[clipoffset=3pt] to get nicely clipped pages Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------