Texlive2008 and updating context

Mehdi Omidali

29 Sep 2008 29 Sep '08

7:38 a.m.

Hi everyone, I have followed any thread about updating context (on Texlive2008 on ubuntu) and no success yet. After running sudo ctxtools --updatecontext and luatools --generate everything went smooth. But after texexec --make --luatex en I got the following Should I create the cache path /home/mehdi? [yes|no] [no] and after pressing Enter I got fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 69.494 seconds TeXExec | no lua compilations needed TeXExec | TeXExec | tex engine path: /home/mehdi/.texlive2008/texmf-config/web2c/luatex TeXExec | TeXExec | TeXExec | runtime: 70.993183 Thanks.

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Mojca Miklavec

29 Sep 29 Sep

10:47 a.m.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Mehdi Omidali wrote:

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Hi everyone, I have followed any thread about updating context (on Texlive2008 on ubuntu) and no success yet. After running sudo ctxtools --updatecontext

This command doesn't necessary do what you always desire: it puts ConTeXt to texmf-local. This means that any further updates that you might try to make with tlmgr (TeX Live manager) will be shielded by your local copy. That's OK, but you need to be aware that you then have two copies of ConTeXt on your computer, and the one in texmf-local will be used. And there is something that might bite you with this as well. TeX Live is currently configured so that luatools & mtxrun binaries are taken from texmf-dist/scripts. If the rest of files comes from texmf-local, you might end in troubles/incompatibilities between the two versions. You probably need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun manually.

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and luatools --generate everything went smooth. But after

texexec --make --luatex en

I got the following

Should I create the cache path /home/mehdi? [yes|no] [no]

and after pressing Enter I got

fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined

You need to update LuaTeX binary as well. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV. But there are still some issues. Namely, you need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun to point to the proper file. And you might need to remove files in texmf-local that belong to ConTeXt as a result of "ctxtools --updatecontext" (it's up to you which tree you want to use; I overwrite files in texmf-dist with some care). Mojca

Mojca Miklavec

10:49 a.m.

I just forgot to add: the situation with updates is a bit confusing at the moment, but that's not your fault. Hopefully it will improve soon. Mojca On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Mehdi Omidali wrote:

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Hi everyone, I have followed any thread about updating context (on Texlive2008 on ubuntu) and no success yet. After running sudo ctxtools --updatecontext

This command doesn't necessary do what you always desire: it puts ConTeXt to texmf-local. This means that any further updates that you might try to make with tlmgr (TeX Live manager) will be shielded by your local copy. That's OK, but you need to be aware that you then have two copies of ConTeXt on your computer, and the one in texmf-local will be used.

And there is something that might bite you with this as well. TeX Live is currently configured so that luatools & mtxrun binaries are taken from texmf-dist/scripts. If the rest of files comes from texmf-local, you might end in troubles/incompatibilities between the two versions. You probably need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun manually.

...
and luatools --generate everything went smooth. But after

texexec --make --luatex en

I got the following

Should I create the cache path /home/mehdi? [yes|no] [no]

and after pressing Enter I got

fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined

You need to update LuaTeX binary as well. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV. But there are still some issues. Namely, you need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun to point to the proper file. And you might need to remove files in texmf-local that belong to ConTeXt as a result of "ctxtools --updatecontext" (it's up to you which tree you want to use; I overwrite files in texmf-dist with some care).

Mojca

Mehdi Omidali

12:03 p.m.

Thanks Mojca, I have lutex 0.29 and tried to just copy files from cont-tmf to texmf-dist but I also got an error that it can not find context.tex. Could you please tell me which files do you copy to texmf-dist. Seems that it is a better choice for now. Thanks On 9/29/08, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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I just forgot to add: the situation with updates is a bit confusing at the moment, but that's not your fault. Hopefully it will improve soon.

Mojca

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Mehdi Omidali wrote:

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Hi everyone, I have followed any thread about updating context (on Texlive2008 on ubuntu) and no success yet. After running sudo ctxtools --updatecontext

This command doesn't necessary do what you always desire: it puts ConTeXt to texmf-local. This means that any further updates that you might try to make with tlmgr (TeX Live manager) will be shielded by your local copy. That's OK, but you need to be aware that you then have two copies of ConTeXt on your computer, and the one in texmf-local will be used.

And there is something that might bite you with this as well. TeX Live is currently configured so that luatools & mtxrun binaries are taken from texmf-dist/scripts. If the rest of files comes from texmf-local, you might end in troubles/incompatibilities between the two versions. You probably need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun manually.

...
and luatools --generate everything went smooth. But after

texexec --make --luatex en

I got the following

Should I create the cache path /home/mehdi? [yes|no] [no]

and after pressing Enter I got

fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined

You need to update LuaTeX binary as well. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV. But there are still some issues. Namely, you need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun to point to the proper file. And you might need to remove files in texmf-local that belong to ConTeXt as a result of "ctxtools --updatecontext" (it's up to you which tree you want to use; I overwrite files in texmf-dist with some care).

Mojca

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Alan BRASLAU

12:06 p.m.

Yes, please, it is confusing. On the Wiki different instructions appear in several places (mkIV, minimals, TeXlive, debian...). It would be quite nice if somebody who understands this all could clean-up the instructions, in particular, structure the information in a clearer fashion. Thanks. Alan On Monday 29 September 2008 12:49:24 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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I just forgot to add: the situation with updates is a bit confusing at the moment, but that's not your fault. Hopefully it will improve soon.

Mojca

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Mojca Miklavec

wrote:

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Mehdi Omidali wrote:

...
Hi everyone, I have followed any thread about updating context (on Texlive2008 on ubuntu) and no success yet. After running sudo ctxtools --updatecontext

This command doesn't necessary do what you always desire: it puts ConTeXt to texmf-local. This means that any further updates that you might try to make with tlmgr (TeX Live manager) will be shielded by your local copy. That's OK, but you need to be aware that you then have two copies of ConTeXt on your computer, and the one in texmf-local will be used.

And there is something that might bite you with this as well. TeX Live is currently configured so that luatools & mtxrun binaries are taken from texmf-dist/scripts. If the rest of files comes from texmf-local, you might end in troubles/incompatibilities between the two versions. You probably need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun manually.

...
and luatools --generate everything went smooth. But after

texexec --make --luatex en

I got the following

Should I create the cache path /home/mehdi? [yes|no] [no]

and after pressing Enter I got

fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined

You need to update LuaTeX binary as well. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV. But there are still some issues. Namely, you need to fix symlinks of luatools and mtxrun to point to the proper file. And you might need to remove files in texmf-local that belong to ConTeXt as a result of "ctxtools --updatecontext" (it's up to you which tree you want to use; I overwrite files in texmf-dist with some care).

Mojca

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Mojca Miklavec

12:59 p.m.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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Yes, please, it is confusing. On the Wiki different instructions appear in several places (mkIV, minimals, TeXlive, debian...). It would be quite nice if somebody who understands this all could clean-up the instructions,

And also clean up --updatecontext procedure. I need to finish several things in the following days, but will come back to it. The confusing info spread all over the wiki definitely needs to be cleaned up. Mojca

Otared Kavian

2:03 p.m.

On 29 sept. 08, at 14:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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And also clean up --updatecontext procedure.

I need to finish several things in the following days, but will come back to it. The confusing info spread all over the wiki definitely needs to be cleaned up.

Mojca

Hi Mojca, That's why I didn't put on the wiki the dirty tricks to fix the problems when trying to update mkiv… When you need a tester on Mac for your cleaned-up peocedures, please let me know Best regards: OK

Mojca Miklavec

2:52 p.m.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

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When you need a tester on Mac for your cleaned-up peocedures, please let me know

Hello Otared, tlmgr update --all should now fix symlinks (apart from the fact that if I want to update, every fifth package fails to update on average, so I need to restart updating every few minutes). Theoretically that command followed by rsync-drived updates should work OK now. I took another look. By "now" I mean that in less than 30 hours tlmgr update --list should return you bin-context version >= 10774. At the moment of writing this it's still bin-context: local: 9789, source: 10592 If already the first command starts complaining about non-existent texlive.tlpsrc as it did here, I had to do something else: tlmgr option location http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet/2008 ---------- Norbert has another script almost ready to put TeX Live packages with ConTeXt betas & latest luatex binaries on the garden, but I have some other urgent things to do in the following days. After that I'll try to finish the script ASAP. After those scripts are ready, something like tlmgr -location http://texlive.contextgarden.net/current update --all should do all the required steps (though it will be far less efficient than rsync which only downloads the changes, not the entire package). TL team argued that updates will not be that frequent anyway, and that people have broadband connections anyway (true in most cases). Mojca

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