On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 09:45 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Hi,

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Can anybody lend me some aid?

You could use otfinstall to install your opentype fonts.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinstall

I already noticed that script, however... It seems texfont already has support for OpenType. It has the --preproc and --lcdf parameters. After running: texfont --makepath --install -en=texnansi --ve=adobe --co=adobegaramondpro --preproc --lcdf It generated these files: /opt/texlive/texmf-local/fonts$ ls -1 tfm/adobe/adobegaramondpro/ texnansi-AGaramondPro-Regular--base.tfm texnansi-AGaramondPro-Regular--lcdfj.tfm texnansi-AGaramondPro-Regular.tfm texnansi-AGaramondPro-Semibold--base.tfm texnansi-AGaramondPro-Semibold--lcdfj.tfm texnansi-AGaramondPro-Semibold.tfm ... /opt/texlive/texmf-local/fonts$ ls -1 type1/adobe/adobegaramondpro/ AGaramondPro-Regular.pfb AGaramondPro-Semibold.pfb ... Why should I use otfinstall instead of texfont, besides the fact that texfont doesn't work? Is texfont incomplete? Or am I doing something wrong? What are the advantages/downsides of both? -- http://blog.pcode.nl/ http://www.linkselente.nl/

Hi, On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 19:54 +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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Why should I use otfinstall instead of texfont, besides the fact that texfont doesn't work?

Do you really need another reason? Have you tried otfinst? The point of all these scripts is to make your life easier in generating metrics, auxiliary fonts and map files; if you tear yourself with questions before trying them much of their interest is lost on you.

You're right. I'm just a curious person. I considerd texfont to be an 'official' tool, and I'd like to learn/stick to official stuff whenever possible (at least as long as that doesn't involve me losing my sanity).

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Is texfont incomplete?

I have no idea; but at any rate it belongs to a clearly “older” generation of scripts. The latest available version has “version=2004.02.06” in the documentation part, and even without that you can spot it quite easily since it belongs to Hans' Perl period ;-)

I didn't know Hans' had a Perl period... I guess that period has passed now... 2004 has been a while...

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Or am I doing something wrong?

Probably not.

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What are the advantages/downsides of both?

Why don't you try it for yourself?

I'll give otfinstall a shot tomorrow. Thanks for the reply, Pascal de Bruijn -- http://blog.pcode.nl/ http://www.linkselente.nl/

On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 22:07 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Hi Pascal,

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I'll give otfinstall a shot tomorrow.

this is the oinst file for the adobe garamond premier I've used. There is no support for opticals yet. This is really a simple tool.

adobe_garamond_premier_pro.oinst: -------------------------------------------------- vendor "adobe" collection "garamond"

# 'sans' or 'serif' fontclass "serif"

# Allowed variants are 'default', 'osf' variants %w(default osf)

# Supported faces are 'regular' 'bold' 'italic' and 'bolditalic' regular "GaramondPremrPro.otf" bold "GaramondPremrPro-Bd.otf" italic "GaramondPremrPro-It.otf" bolditalic "GaramondPremrPro-BdIt.otf" --------------------------------------------------

I adjusted it to my own situation (AGaramondPro, not the Premier version). And I ran it succesfully. However, I can't see where the files have gone? Compiling my .tex file also doesn't change anything. I declared this, maybe I went wrong here... I tried several different font names: \usetypescript[AGaramondPro][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[AGaramondPro] I also tried 'garamond', 'adobegaramondpro'. Besides this I also noticed the script didn't support Semibold, which to me is very essential. The Bold version of AGaramondPro doesn't have any small caps, and Semibold just looks beter. And if I understand the script correctly, the font in converted into static versions supporting OsF and Sc, right? (Ruby isn't very readable, when you're not a Ruby programmer). Regards, Pascal de Bruijn -- http://blog.pcode.nl/ http://www.linkselente.nl/

Pascal de Bruijn wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 19:54 +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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Why should I use otfinstall instead of texfont, besides the fact that texfont doesn't work? Do you really need another reason? Have you tried otfinst? The point of all these scripts is to make your life easier in generating metrics, auxiliary fonts and map files; if you tear yourself with questions before trying them much of their interest is lost on you.

You're right. I'm just a curious person. I considerd texfont to be an 'official' tool, and I'd like to learn/stick to official stuff whenever possible (at least as long as that doesn't involve me losing my sanity).

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Is texfont incomplete?

I have no idea; but at any rate it belongs to a clearly “older” generation of scripts. The latest available version has “version=2004.02.06” in the documentation part, and even without that you can spot it quite easily since it belongs to Hans' Perl period ;-)

I didn't know Hans' had a Perl period... I guess that period has passed now... 2004 has been a while...

well, i still use texfont for type 1 fonts, but for open type i use luatex anyway which can handle it directly (actually, mkiv also uses afm files instead of tfm when available, so texfont is not needed any more) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Pascal de Bruijn wrote:

On 8/6/07, Hans Hagen wrote:

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well, i still use texfont for type 1 fonts, but for open type i use luatex anyway which can handle it directly (actually, mkiv also uses afm files instead of tfm when available, so texfont is not needed any more)

How stable/reliable is LuaTeX for general use?

Well, "not at all" is the wisest answer I can give. But I know for a fact that there are people out there (you know who you are!) that use luatex for production work already. As long as you stick to the highlevel context interface, are not interested in the archivability of documents and do not hit a showstopper bug, it is somewhat ok to do that. Luatex is an early beta. I am always happy to hear about bugs, but it may take a while for them to get fixed (in the next beta), so don't start anything time-critical in luatex that cannot easily be handled in another way, just in case.

Does LuaTeX already support OpenType things like SmallCaps, Old Style Figures, Alternates, Ligatures, etc?

Yes. Best read the magazine has mentioned, and lookup \definefontfeature. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf Best wishes, Taco

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http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf

I seem not to be able to reach/allowed on this link. Nor did I find it in the download/magazine section of the pragma site. How do I get this? it works for me; try http://context.aanhet.net/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf

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On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hans van der Meer wrote:

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On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:16, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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Does LuaTeX already support OpenType things like SmallCaps, Old Style Figures, Alternates, Ligatures, etc?

Yes. Best read the magazine has mentioned, and lookup \definefontfeature.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf

I seem not to be able to reach/allowed on this link. Nor did I find it in the download/magazine section of the pragma site. How do I get this?

it's really there

Hans

I should mention that when I (involuntarily) changed Cable ISPs I lost the ability to transmit mail directly to this list. ntg.nl is apparently not in their DNS server. So I must transmit posts here via my wexfordpress.com mail server maintained by doteasy.com, a Canadian company. Perhaps the other person is having a similar difficulty basd on domain name servers. -- John Culleton

Yes. Best read the magazine has mentioned, and lookup \definefontfeature.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf

By the way, is there a "This way" number 11? Cheerio, Oliver

No access to this link. Does it really exist? My browser says on entering "http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/ magazines/": Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 www.pragma-ade.com Thu Aug 9 16:50:58 2007 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) This is not very helpful. On Aug 9, 2007, at 15:09, Oliver Buerschaper wrote:

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Yes. Best read the magazine has mentioned, and lookup \definefontfeature.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf

By the way, is there a "This way" number 11?

Cheerio, Oliver ______________________________________________________________________ _____________

Hans van der Meer

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Hans van der Meer wrote:

No access to this link. Does it really exist? My browser says on entering "http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/ magazines/":

Access forbidden!

This is what I use as starting point: http://www.pragma-ade.com/dir Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Hello Pascal,

I already noticed that script, however... It seems texfont already has support for OpenType. It has the --preproc and --lcdf parameters.

I have written otfinstall after I have played around with texfont. texfont is much more versatile then otfinstall, but I think that otfinstall is faster, easier to use and writes all necessary files. But since I never felt like reading the texfont documentation, I might be completely wrong about my assumptions on texfont.

Why should I use otfinstall instead of texfont, besides the fact that texfont doesn't work? Is texfont incomplete? Or am I doing something wrong? What are the advantages/downsides of both?

They are just two different tools for a similar purpose. Nothing wrong with each of them. There is not much to add to what Arthur said. If you need any specific help on otfinstall, I'd be glad to assist you (and update the documentation as well). Patrick