Taco Hoekwater writes:

Jesse Alama wrote:

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I just downloaded the TeXLive 2008 developer snapshot and wanted to try out LuaTeX. Unfortunately, I can't even get started:

$ context dissertation.tex

MtxRun | unknown script: context

I ran luatools --generate before doing this. What's odd is that mtx-context can be found:

$ luatools mtx-context.lua

We've had this before. IIRC, the problem is that mtxrun looks for the script using a different 'file type' from luatools. It probably means you will have to adjust a value in texmf.cnf.

I have:

LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//

and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s), you will have to rerun luatools --generate.

I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still get the same error, even after luatools --generate. Further suggestions? By the way, I initially modified the "local" texmf.cnf file texlive/2008/texmf.cnf rather than the "gloal" configuration file texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf because the former file says that it should contain changes to the latter: <---snip---> % If you want to configure something to a value different then the one % in texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, just put the changed value here. <---snip---> But I noticed that when I ran luatools --generate, it apparently ignored this "local" texmf.cnf file; it read only the "global" texmf.cnf file. I inferred that from the output: LuaTools | error unable to locate texmfcnf.lua LuaTools | loading /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf LuaTools | preparing configuration for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma LuaTools | saving configuration in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma LuaTools | compiling configuration to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tmc ...etc. Thus I modified the "global" configuration file instead. By the way, the variables LUAINPUTS and TEXMFSCRIPTS already had values: LUAINPUTS = .;$TEXMF/scripts/{$progname,$engine,}/lua//;$TEXINPUTS TEXMFSCRIPTS = $TEXMF/scripts/{$engine,$progname,}// But I overwrote those to give them the values you recommended, to no avail, unfortunately. Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Taco Hoekwater writes:

Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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I have:

LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//

and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s), you will have to rerun luatools --generate.

I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still get the same error, even after luatools --generate. Further suggestions?

Maybe

$ env MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context ...

will give some hint about what mtxrun is doing.

$ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: context.lua MtxRun | ? filename: context.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./context.lua MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-context.lua MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | ! remembered: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | unknown script: context It seems that mtxrun has no idea where to look for mtx-context.lua. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Aditya Mahajan writes:

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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I have:

LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//

and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s), you will have to rerun luatools --generate.

I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still get the same error, even after luatools --generate. Further suggestions?

Maybe

$ env MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context ...

will give some hint about what mtxrun is doing.

$ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: context.lua MtxRun | ? filename: context.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./context.lua MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-context.lua MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-contexts.lua MtxRun | ! remembered: mtx-context.lua MtxRun | unknown script: context

It seems that mtxrun has no idea where to look for mtx-context.lua. Any suggestions?

What does MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 luatools --generate say?

$ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 luatools --generate LuaTools | error unable to locate texmfcnf.lua LuaTools | loading /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf LuaTools | preparing configuration for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma LuaTools | saving configuration in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma LuaTools | compiling configuration to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tmc LuaTools | locating list of /Users/alama/.texlive2008/texmf-config LuaTools | ? tex locator: /Users/alama/.texlive2008/texmf-config not found LuaTools | locating list of /Users/alama/.texlive2008/texmf-var LuaTools | ? tex locator: /Users/alama/.texlive2008/texmf-var not found LuaTools | locating list of /Users/alama/texmf LuaTools | ! tex locator: /Users/alama/texmf found LuaTools | = hash append: /Users/alama/texmf LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-config LuaTools | ! tex locator: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-config found LuaTools | = hash append: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-config LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-var LuaTools | ! tex locator: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-var found LuaTools | = hash append: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-var LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf LuaTools | ! tex locator: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf found LuaTools | = hash append: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local LuaTools | ! tex locator: /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local found LuaTools | = hash append: /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist LuaTools | ! tex locator: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist found LuaTools | = hash append: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist LuaTools | scanning path /Users/alama/texmf LuaTools | 1199 files found on 251 directories with 42 uppercase remappings LuaTools | scanning path /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-config LuaTools | 0 files found on 0 directories with 0 uppercase remappings LuaTools | scanning path /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-var LuaTools | 93 files found on 31 directories with 0 uppercase remappings LuaTools | scanning path /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf LuaTools | 1040 files found on 168 directories with 29 uppercase remappings LuaTools | scanning path /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local LuaTools | 3017 files found on 187 directories with 73 uppercase remappings LuaTools | scanning path /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist LuaTools | 56437 files found on 5450 directories with 2131 uppercase remappings LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ac3eee35b5b23b98b43e5c7003a4bbe4.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ac3eee35b5b23b98b43e5c7003a4bbe4.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ac3eee35b5b23b98b43e5c7003a4bbe4.tmc LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/982f3cc39ab8256ee0595931d5cfd085.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/982f3cc39ab8256ee0595931d5cfd085.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/982f3cc39ab8256ee0595931d5cfd085.tmc LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/4eb9551710f45f305daf928a0f6f4fb0.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/4eb9551710f45f305daf928a0f6f4fb0.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/4eb9551710f45f305daf928a0f6f4fb0.tmc LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/1f08e3a96247a4bd25d903ca1cb00c0e.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/1f08e3a96247a4bd25d903ca1cb00c0e.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/1f08e3a96247a4bd25d903ca1cb00c0e.tmc LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/8d010c969467b901b6bcb91f6f471f8b.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/8d010c969467b901b6bcb91f6f471f8b.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/8d010c969467b901b6bcb91f6f471f8b.tmc LuaTools | preparing files for /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/54c38668678471591609fbe0217efe48.tma LuaTools | saving files in /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/54c38668678471591609fbe0217efe48.tma LuaTools | compiling files to /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/54c38668678471591609fbe0217efe48.tmc LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 6.702 seconds Any ideas? Thanks for the help, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Hans Hagen writes:

Jesse Alama wrote:

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LuaTools | runtime: 6.702 seconds

Any ideas?

looks ok to me

did you update mtxrun.lua -> mtxrun(.lua) in your bin path?

No, I didn't mess with that. Is anyone else testing out the latest TeXLive developer snapshot? My experience has been that LuaTeX is broken. Perhaps it is premature to include LuaTeX in this year's TeXLive. Or perhaps the binaries and scripts that one gets when one downloads the latest TeXLive developer snapshot are too old. Or perhaps LuaTeX requires more (or different) configuration than is done in the texmf.cnf that is distributed with TeXLive. Thanks, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Hans Hagen writes:

Jesse Alama wrote:

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Hans Hagen writes:

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Jesse Alama wrote:

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LuaTools | runtime: 6.702 seconds Any ideas? looks ok to me

did you update mtxrun.lua -> mtxrun(.lua) in your bin path?

No, I didn't mess with that.

Is anyone else testing out the latest TeXLive developer snapshot? My experience has been that LuaTeX is broken. Perhaps it is premature to include LuaTeX in this year's TeXLive. Or perhaps the binaries and scripts that one gets when one downloads the latest TeXLive developer snapshot are too old. Or perhaps LuaTeX requires more (or different) configuration than is done in the texmf.cnf that is distributed with TeXLive.

you can best take Norberts packages then since they reflect the latest state of affairs and can be ahead of tex live (context in tex live is already frozen)

I'll try to get Norbert's packages -- thanks for the tip. As for TeXLive, it would be a real shame if the TL2008 DVD were shipped with a busted LuaTeX+MkIV installation. I for one am quite enthusiastic about these two projects, so it was disheartening to come across such a basic problem. Perhaps I should post to the tex-live mailing list and ask whether other testers are having similar trouble. Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Taco Hoekwater writes:

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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I have:

LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//

and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s), you will have to rerun luatools --generate. I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still get the same error, even after luatools --generate. Further suggestions?

Try

$ env TEXMFCACHE=/Users/alama context dissertation

maybe that will help. (I am guessing right now, but I will install the texlive devel snapshot on a clean virtual machine on monday).

Same problem: $ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 TEXMFCACHE=/Users/alama context dissertation ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | context.lua ? filename: %s | context.lua - readable: %s | ./context.lua ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | mtx-context.lua ? filename: %s | mtx-context.lua - readable: %s | ./mtx-context.lua ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | mtx-contexts.lua ? filename: %s | mtx-contexts.lua - readable: %s | ./mtx-contexts.lua ! remembered: %s | mtx-context.lua MtxRun | unknown script: context I'll take this to the tex-live list -- perhaps something is misconfigured in TL2008. Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

Jesse Alama writes:

Jesse Alama writes:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jesse Alama wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater writes:

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Jesse Alama wrote: > Taco Hoekwater writes: >> I have: >> >> LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua >> TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context// >> >> and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s), >> you will have to rerun luatools --generate. > I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still > get the same error, even after luatools --generate. Further > suggestions?

Try

$ env TEXMFCACHE=/Users/alama context dissertation

maybe that will help. (I am guessing right now, but I will install the texlive devel snapshot on a clean virtual machine on monday).

Same problem:

$ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 TEXMFCACHE=/Users/alama context dissertation ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | context.lua ? filename: %s | context.lua - readable: %s | ./context.lua ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | mtx-context.lua ? filename: %s | mtx-context.lua - readable: %s | ./mtx-context.lua ! using suffix based filetype: %s | lua ? blobpath asked: %s | mtx-contexts.lua ? filename: %s | mtx-contexts.lua - readable: %s | ./mtx-contexts.lua ! remembered: %s | mtx-context.lua MtxRun | unknown script: context

I'll take this to the tex-live list -- perhaps something is misconfigured in TL2008.

The latest tl2008 snapshot seems to solve the problem (though I'm not sure why). Sorry for complaining -- I realize that LuaTeX+MkIV (and these days TL2008) are moving targets, but one's patience sometimes runs thin.

I spoke too soon: I confused a shell in which I had set up ConTeXt using the setuptex script with a vanilla shell. The basic startup problem still stands. (I've also asked for help on the TL list.) Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)