Hi, Normally when we're in the 2022 TeXlive code freeze period, there is a snapshot release but because there hasn't been that many changes, maybe a few patches, in MKIV there is no real snapshot this year. But for the sake of consistency we can consider today's version that snapshot. It basically means that MKIV has been frozen and is even more frozen now. All new stuff goes in MKXL (aka LMTX) and I suppose that next year we let that end up in TeXlive alongside frozen MKII and MKIV. Of course bugs will be fixed as usual. So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 2022-04-01 12:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
Normally when we're in the 2022 TeXlive code freeze period, there is a snapshot release but because there hasn't been that many changes, maybe a few patches, in MKIV there is no real snapshot this year. But for the sake of consistency we can consider today's version that snapshot.
It basically means that MKIV has been frozen and is even more frozen now. All new stuff goes in MKXL (aka LMTX) and I suppose that next year we let that end up in TeXlive alongside frozen MKII and MKIV. Of course bugs will be fixed as usual.
So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.
Hans
With the freeze of MKIV, how will modules be managed? LMTX still ships without. A while back (https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg100179.html) it was suggest that this would, at some point, change. -- Rik
On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
[...] So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.
Just a comment on MkIV. I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or Windows) for months now. This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you. If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache" directory inside) When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in "$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache". I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache" directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache". BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path. Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt, Pablo
Same here... I haven't managed to run mkiv for months. Not a huge deal, but anyway.
Best,
Denis
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[...] So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.
Just a comment on MkIV. I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or Windows) for months now. This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you. If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache" directory inside) When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in "$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache". I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache" directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache". BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path. Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt, Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
On 4/1/2022 9:19 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
Same here... I haven't managed to run mkiv for months. Not a huge deal, but anyway.
Best, Denis ________________________________________ Von: ntg-context
im Auftrag von Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context Gesendet: Freitag, 1. April 2022 20:37:30 An: Hans Hagen via ntg-context Cc: Pablo Rodriguez Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] mkiv On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
[...] So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.
Just a comment on MkIV.
I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or Windows) for months now.
This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you.
If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache" directory inside)
When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in "$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache".
I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache" directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache".
and how about context --luatex --generate
BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path.
Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt,
Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
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On 4/2/22 09:40, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
[..] and how about
context --luatex --generate
Many thanks for your reply, Hans. I’m afraid it doesn’t work. It still generates data under $HOME/.texlive2021/, but it tries to read data (to generate the format file) from $HOME/backup-context/01062022_context/, which is a backup I have, instead of $HOME/context (which is the actual directory where ConTeXt is installed). Even with the HOME/backup-context/ directory hidden, I get the following error when Irun "context --luatex document" (after having run "context --luatex --generate"): system > lua > loading of file 'context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua' failed: cannot open context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua: No such file or directory resolvers > lua > loading file 'context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua' failed error loading file: luat-exe.lua (aborting)resolvers | formats | resolvers | formats | binary path : /usr/bin resolvers | formats | format path : /home/ousia/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/formats/luatex resolvers | formats | luatex engine : luatex resolvers | formats | lua startup file : /home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua resolvers | formats | context file : /home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv resolvers | formats | run time : 0.100 seconds resolvers | formats | return value : okay resolvers | formats | mtx-context | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting system | total runtime: 1.505 seconds Many thanks for your help, Pablo
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denis.maier@unibe.ch
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Hans Hagen
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Pablo Rodriguez
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Rik Kabel