On 3/19/2013 11:46 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:

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i.e. we already had CL CM and CR, so CT is new .. should be wikified.

The wiki [1] describes these \C* commands:

\CR color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on the right; \CC color is applied to the background of the text only; \CM color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on both sides; \CL color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on the left.

[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate

What does CT do differently than CC? It's not quite clear from the example.

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On 3/20/2013 8:14 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:

Hi Hans, All,

I find this nomenclature confusing and a little confusing from a design standpoint!

1) Color of the text background should be separate from the rest of the cell background

2) the names should reflect to what they apply

That said we should have: CTBGC == Cell text background color CTC == Cell text color

CBGC == Cell background color or CC == Cell color

CBGCR == Cell background color in the space right of text CBGCM == Cell background color in space middle of cell( above below text) CBGCL == Cell background color in the space right of text

True, these are a lot of options/parameters, yet it offers the most flexibility and a cleaner interface. Furthermore, one can understand the names of the parameters.

preamble scanning is already quite tricky and there was already CR CM CL so adding CT was a few lines of extra code (i will probably make a key/val based variant some day but that is no fun either ... 10 lines of setup per table instead of a one line preeamble) (and i'm forbidden to fundamentally change an important mechanism like tabulate right now as for sure it will break some things)

Another, advantage is that one could and at a later point a feature for inverting the color of the text according cell color and/or text background color.

regards Keith.

Am 19.03.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Sietse Brouwer :

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i.e. we already had CL CM and CR, so CT is new .. should be wikified.

The wiki [1] describes these \C* commands:

\CR color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on the right; \CC color is applied to the background of the text only; \CM color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on both sides; \CL color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining space on the left.

[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate

What does CT do differently than CC? It's not quite clear from the example.

Cheers,

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On 3/20/2013 5:36 PM, Jonathan Barchi wrote:

Just to be clear: CT provides an alternate method to colorize the text, instead of using the standard \color[foo]{bar} - right? There is already a section on using the \color command to colorize the text, so I want to make sure I'm adding this correctly as a complementary mechanism, or fix it if I misunderstood.

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On 3/20/2013 8:24 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:46:35 +0100 Sietse Brouwer wrote:

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[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate

There is \starttabulate and \starttable. I understand that they use different mechanisms, even though their syntax are parallel. The wiki page [1] warns against the use of macros in tabulate, but this seems a bit obscure. Also, Tables_Overview recommends tabulate for simple tables and flags both table and tables as depreciated. I hesitate to add this information at the top of the wiki pages: Tabulate, Table and Tables as I am not clear about the status of these three mechanisms...

The obscurity comes from the fact that a tabulate is typeset multipass so macro definitions might have changed between first and last columns / rows. This is probably less of an issu ein mkiv.

One question: is it possible to span columns using tabulate as in table: \Use{n}[format]{data}?

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On 4/15/2015 7:08 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

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\starttext

\starttabulate[||CL{darkred}|CM{darkgreen}CT{white}|CR{darkblue}||] \NC first \NC left \NC middle \NC right \NC last \NC \NR \NC first \NC \color[white]{left} \NC middle \NC \color[white]{right} \NC last \NC \NR \NC first \NC left \NC middle \NC right \NC last \NC \NR \stoptabulate

\stoptext

i.e. we already had CL CM and CR, so CT is new .. should be wikified.

I am using a two-week old beta (2015.04.03). CL has the same alignment as r and CR has the same aligned as l.

I understand the historic reason for the difference between left and flushleft, but shouldn't the alignment keys within the same mechanism have the same meaning? (Or was this a bug that has been corrected in the current beta).

this doesn't look that unnatural does it? \starttext \starttabulate[|l|lCL{darkred}|CM{darkgreen}CT{white}|rCR{darkblue}|r|] \NC first 1 \NC left 1 \NC middle \NC right 1 \NC last 1 \NC \NR \NC first 22 \NC \color[white]{left 22} \NC middle \NC \color[white]{right 22} \NC last 22 \NC \NR \NC first 333\NC left 333 \NC middle \NC right 333 \NC last 333 \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------