On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

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You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame.

Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about deeptextcommand at all...

But it doesn't work, it stops with:

TitelNoToc : - Inhalt (./prd_creator.tuo ! Argument of \textormathspace has an extra }. <inserted text> \par <to be read again> } \doregistertexthowto ...?id #1\c!textcommand }{#2} \dostopattributes \dohandleregisterentry ...exthowto {\v!index }{#1} \fi \egroup \!! doneafalse \c!entrya ...urround \z@ \ldots \textormathspace } \global \firstregisterentr... <argument> \c!entrya \c!entryb \c!entryc \c!entryd ... l.177 ...age{index}{,}{21}{2--0-6-0-0-0-0-0--5}{7}

probably caused by \dots in: \Titel{Wach nun auf\dots}

with those definitions:

--- >8 --- \def\dots{\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace}

\definehead[Titel][chapter] \definehead[TitelNoToc][chapter] \definehead[TitelNoPage][chapter] \definehead[TitelKlein][chapter] \def\TitelFrame#1{\expanded{\index{#1}}% \framed[ width=\textwidth, height=7.5mm, frame=off, align={right,high}, after={}, before={}]% {\switchtobodyfont[12pt]\hw\tfa #1}} \def\TitelFrameKlein#1{\expanded{\index{#1}}% \framed[ width=\textwidth, height=5mm, frame=off, align={right,high}, after={}, before={}]% {\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\hw\tfb #1}} \setuphead[Titel][page=yes, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame] \setuphead[TitelNoToc][page=yes, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame] \setuphead[TitelNoPage][page=no, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame] \setuphead[TitelKlein][page=no, number=no, deeptextcommand= \TitelFrameKlein]

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Does that mean that must not use any commands (like \dots) in my \expanded{\index{#1}}?

You could use \unknown Wolfgang

On Jan 28, 2008 9:10 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2008-01-28 um 09:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

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On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

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You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame.

Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about deeptextcommand at all...

Does that mean that must not use any commands (like \dots) in my \expanded{\index{#1}}?

You could use \unknown

What should that do? And where/how would I use it? Please don't expect me to know any lowlevel commands...

Hi Henning, \unknown is no low level command, it is ConTeXt's command to produce a ellipsis in the text, exactly what do you want to achieve with your \dots command. Wolfgang

On Jan 29, 2008 3:31 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:51:01 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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You could use \unknown

What should that do? And where/how would I use it? Please don't expect me to know any lowlevel commands...

Hi Henning,

\unknown is no low level command, it is ConTeXt's command to produce a ellipsis in the text, exactly what do you want to achieve with your \dots command.

One can also use \textellipsis, which is more obvious ;-)

Try this: \starttext text\textellipsis text\unknown \stoptext I prefer the second line (there a short discussion about this topic a long time ago). Wolfgang

Am 2008-01-29 um 18:48 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:

So do I. But I still use \dots mostly so I did not realize the difference; I thought they were the same (or forgot they are different).

Why the different definitions I wonder? Till then I'll proabably \let\textellipsis=\unknown.

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(there a short discussion about this topic a long time ago).

Yes, I was thinking of that when I wrote... need to research/review it again...

And I guess my usual redefinition of \dots as \def\dots{\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace.\thinspace} stems from one of that discussions. But let me please revive the subject of this thread: My problem is not with \dots, but with \index within a header command like this: \setuphead[Titel][page=yes, number=no, textcommand=\TitelFrame] \def\TitelFrame#1{\index{#1}% \framed[ width=\textwidth, height=7.5mm, frame=off, align={right,high}]% {\hw\tfa #1}% } I can't tell if it's an expansion problem, but that's probable, because a single \index{foo} works. Here's a rather minimal working example that shows the index problem (even if not the failure with my actual project): \starttext \def\MyTitle#1{{\index{#1}\bfa #1}} \setuphead[chapter][page=no, number=no, textcommand=\MyTitle] \chapter{Lalala} \input tufte \chapter{Bingo} \input tufte \chapter{Abrakadabra} \input tufte \completeindex \stoptext Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

On Jan 29, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Try this:

\starttext text\textellipsis

text\unknown \stoptext

I prefer the second line (there a short discussion about this topic a long time ago).

Wolfgang

Hi Wolfgang, isn't this just a bug in lmodern? In any decent font, \textellipsis in fact gives exactly the output you get from \unknown here. There may be historical reasons why the glyph looks that way in cm and lm, but it certainly is unexpected compared to other fonts. Thomas

Am 2008-01-30 um 16:48 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:

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isn't this just a bug in lmodern? In any decent font, \textellipsis in fact gives exactly the output you get from \unknown here. There may be historical reasons why the glyph looks that way in cm and lm, but it certainly is unexpected compared to other fonts.

Or a bug in mkii:

enco-utf.tex: Line 3055 : \def\textellipsis {…} % HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS

enco-def.tex: \definecharacter textellipsis {\mathematics\cdots}

At least with Century Schoolbook on MkII \textellipsis is vertically shifted (like the colon · ), while \unknown or \dots sits on the baseline (…). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)