On 7/19/2019 6:21 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:54:08 +0300 Dmitry Starostin wrote:

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I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a draft in ConTeXt and make the final variant in pdfLatex. Is there a ready solution for the quotation marks as marked out in the text? Or one needs to write his own macro for this?

Write a macro in pdfLatex.

(You can always use utf-8: “” «  » „“ etc. as appropriate) Quotes are rather language dependent so therefore we use \quotation.

As Alan says, you can always define a macro for latex: \def\quotation#1{``#1''} doing that for context is not a good idea. (Also because future versions might issue an error when such core macros are redefined.) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote:

It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use {``}, {''} and \quotation at the same time

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Another option: Use the fabulous csquotes-package and map \quotation to \enquote: => ``` \usepackage{csquotes} \let\quotation=\enquote ``` Denis Am Sa., 20. Juli 2019 um 02:57 Uhr schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 7/20/2019 2:07 AM, Alan Braslau wrote:

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On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote:

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It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use {``}, {''} and \quotation at the same time

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indeed. `` and '' are (in tex) pseudo ligatures and not really a portable standard, certainly not now that we have utf8 as input (in a similar fashion users who need accented characters will not use \"u and \'a any more)

Hans

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Atsuhito Kohda schrieb am 20.07.2019 um 01:58:

Hi all, I think in the same way as Dmitry. It might be obsolete but, as far as I searched, under the setup \definefontfeature [texligatures] [tlig=yes] \feature[+][texligatures] {''} produces right quotation correctly but left quotation seems not correct (I don't know why). You're wrong here because ' is replaced with a apostrophe and what you see are just two and the have a different space between then than a normal double quotation mark.

%%%% begin example \starttext \switchtobodyfont[100pt] “ ” ’ '' \stoptext %%%% end example Wolfgang