luigi scarso wrote:

On 4/12/07, Johannes Kuester wrote:

...

Hello,

I'm still trying to typeset a "grid-keeping" list (or table). Sorry, no answer. Only to say that I'm following this subject, and I'm doing some private tests.

Thank you! I hope you will be more successful than I am. I do not understand why this is such a problem. Basically, it's just about "paragraph boxes" and their proper alignment on a grid. To me, such a list seems like a basic typographic requirement, so it should be possible to do that in ConTeXt. Johannes -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com

the problem with tex is that it does not hav ea way to force consistent height and depth of lines. yes, it'true. And this is why I'm so involved. luigi

Hi Wolfgang, perfect, now everything works as expected! Thank you! Johannes Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hi Johannes,

replace the current definition of \zeichenzelle with the following:

\def\zeichenzelle#1% {\advance\zeichencolumn\plusone \hbox {\vtop {\hsize\zeichenparameter\c!width \normalbaselines \zeichenparameter\c!before \begstrut \dostartattributes{\????ze\number\zeichencolumn}\c!style\c!color \zeichenparameter\c!left #1 \zeichenparameter\c!right \dostopattributes \endstrut \zeichenparameter\c!after}}}

\synchronizegrid in \setupzeichen is not neccessary

\setupzeichen [\c!textwidth=63.8833mm, \c!before=\noindenting, %\synchronizegrid, \c!after=, %\synchronizegrid ]

add the next two commands to your module

\def\startzeichen{\begingroup\offinterlineskip} \def\stopzeichen{\endgroup}

a alternative version

%\def\startzeichen{\offinterlineskip} %\def\stopzeichen{\oninterlineskip}

and put \startzeichen and \stopzeichen before and after your lines with all \zeichen commands

\startzeichen \zeichen ... \zeichen \stopzeichen

and everything should work as expected

Wolfgang

-- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com

Dear Luigi, luigi scarso wrote:

hmm maibe i have not understand, but

\zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \vrule width 0.1pt height 1em depth2em }{}% %% or this %% \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \blank Mlg() }{}%

breaks the rule.

Or not ?

Yes, it does, definitely. So it's my (or any other user's) responsibility that the cells contain only "allowed" stuff. I still have to see how to deal with large symbols (bigops and integrals). Maybe with "\blank[medium]" in between (and some "\smash"), so that every second line will be on the grid again. When I typeset a similar list previously (for Detailtypografie), I still did that in LaTeX. That required a lot of trickery and manual correction, but at least I was able to do it (and yes, it was arranged on a grid, but LaTeX didn't know that). That is currently my main conceptual problem with ConTeXt: sometimes it's too high-level and too clever, and it's hard to figure out how to do the trickery and the tweaking ... Johannes -- Johannes Kuester typoma mailto:jk@typoma.com http://www.typoma.com

Among others, see and criticize http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/modules.pdf#modules.pdf Of course, the main starting point is http://wiki.contextgarden.net exp.Search wiki

luigi

Johannes Kuester wrote:

Dear Luigi,

luigi scarso wrote:

...

hmm maibe i have not understand, but

\zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \vrule width 0.1pt height 1em depth2em }{}% %% or this %% \zeichen{0002}{b}{second letter \blank Mlg() }{}%

breaks the rule.

Or not ?

Yes, it does, definitely. So it's my (or any other user's) responsibility that the cells contain only "allowed" stuff.

I still have to see how to deal with large symbols (bigops and integrals). Maybe with "\blank[medium]" in between (and some "\smash"), so that every second line will be on the grid again.

When I typeset a similar list previously (for Detailtypografie), I still did that in LaTeX. That required a lot of trickery and manual correction, but at least I was able to do it (and yes, it was arranged on a grid, but LaTeX didn't know that).

That is currently my main conceptual problem with ConTeXt: sometimes it's too high-level and too clever, and it's hard to figure out how to do the trickery and the tweaking ...

there is some some gridmath support available; see details.pdf Hans -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------