In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said: "This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff. met vriendelijke groet Hans van der Meer
"This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff. See: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mk.pdf
Greetings, Jelle
Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said: "This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf
a more extended version will be posted when the maps (ntg) and tugboat (tug) are sent out mkiv code will be put online once tex live is stable and out Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
I cannot open the file with Preview on macosx. ? -a- On 21 Nov 2006, at 20:43, Hans Hagen wrote:
Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said: "This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf
a more extended version will be posted when the maps (ntg) and tugboat (tug) are sent out
mkiv code will be put online once tex live is stable and out
Hans
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:31:56 +0100
Hans van der Meer
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said: "This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff.
met vriendelijke groet Hans van der Meer
Hi Hans, you can find a description of mark ii and mark iv in the following document: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf You could add a link to this file to contextgarden. Wolfgang
Hi Hans,
you can find a description of mark ii and mark iv in the following document:
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf
You could add a link to this file to contextgarden.
Hi, I've put the short description and link in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Glossary where I'd like to add consistent ConTeXt terminology to make orientation in ConTeXt easier. Others are welcome, too, of course. After reading the document I still miss the good term for this level of versioning ("kind of version tag") to distiguish it from "usual" ConTeXt versioning. Hans H., how do you want these versioning systems to be called? ? [date version] = ConTeXt ver: 2006.10.27 15:16 ? [mark version] = MK II Jano
Jano Kula wrote:
Hi Hans,
you can find a description of mark ii and mark iv in the following document:
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf
You could add a link to this file to contextgarden.
Hi,
I've put the short description and link in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Glossary
where I'd like to add consistent ConTeXt terminology to make orientation in ConTeXt easier. Others are welcome, too, of course.
After reading the document I still miss the good term for this level of versioning ("kind of version tag") to distiguish it from "usual" ConTeXt versioning.
Hans H., how do you want these versioning systems to be called?
? [date version] = ConTeXt ver: 2006.10.27 15:16 ? [mark version] = MK II
the mk versioning is only relevant for engines, i.e. mkiv will provide lua based implementations as well as in the future more functionality. pdftex / xetex : mkii luatex : mkiv in some sense, mkiv is a next generation context but downward compatible Hans Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
After reading the document I still miss the good term for this level of versioning ("kind of version tag") to distiguish it from "usual" ConTeXt versioning.
Hans H., how do you want these versioning systems to be called?
? [date version] = ConTeXt ver: 2006.10.27 15:16 ? [mark version] = MK II
the mk versioning is only relevant for engines, i.e. mkiv will provide lua based implementations as well as in the future more functionality.
pdftex / xetex : mkii luatex : mkiv
in some sense, mkiv is a next generation context but downward compatible
thanks, made it clearer: not level of versioning, but axis of versioning. but still, how do we call it? mk version? and how we call the "usual" version then? i want to avoid confusion when speaking about version. guess which one ;) there is already a command \markversion, but it doesn't seem to have something in common with this versioning. jano
Jano Kula wrote:
After reading the document I still miss the good term for this level of versioning ("kind of version tag") to distiguish it from "usual" ConTeXt versioning.
Hans H., how do you want these versioning systems to be called?
? [date version] = ConTeXt ver: 2006.10.27 15:16 ? [mark version] = MK II
the mk versioning is only relevant for engines, i.e. mkiv will provide lua based implementations as well as in the future more functionality.
pdftex / xetex : mkii luatex : mkiv
in some sense, mkiv is a next generation context but downward compatible
thanks, made it clearer: not level of versioning, but axis of versioning.
but still, how do we call it? mk version? and how we call the "usual" version then? i want to avoid confusion when speaking about version. guess which one ;)
for the moment a new version means the usual: date related version
there is already a command \markversion, but it doesn't seem to have something in common with this versioning.
no, mostly to do with auto mkii/iv suffix loading Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:31:56 +0100
Hans van der Meer
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said: "This was the first version that separates between a 'mark ii' and 'mark iv' version." I guess I missed something important, but I am ignorant on the terms "mark ii" and "mark iv" version. Searching contextgarden did not reveal an explanation to me. I would appreciate if someone can point me to some reading stuff.
met vriendelijke groet Hans van der Meer
Hi Hans, you can find a description of mark ii and mark iv in the following document: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mk.pdf Wolfgang
On 11/21/06, Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said:
I was really curious about what was going to stand on those pages (one of my temporary diffs was about 1MB long), but I really love Taco's most honest comment ;) Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 11/21/06, Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said:
I was really curious about what was going to stand on those pages (one of my temporary diffs was about 1MB long), but I really love Taco's most honest comment ;)
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On 11/22/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 11/21/06, Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said:
I was really curious about what was going to stand on those pages (one of my temporary diffs was about 1MB long), but I really love Taco's most honest comment ;)
maybe you want to volunteer on the mkiv zip -)
Taco usually added them under "new files" only ;), so that shouldn't be as much work after all ;) But after looking into the last version of ConTeXt I got an impression that one could take a week off only writing documentation about the changes posted two days ago.
Archive: t:/sources/cont-mtx.zip Length Date Time Name -------- ---- ---- ---- 2095 10-13-06 20:06 tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv 3228 10-27-06 15:13 tex/context/base/core-buf.mkiv 3573 09-18-06 13:40 tex/context/base/core-con.mkiv 1718 10-19-06 11:19 tex/context/base/core-obj.mkiv 2332 10-19-06 01:28 tex/context/base/core-pos.mkiv 697 09-18-06 13:35 tex/context/base/core-sys.mkiv 3015 10-11-06 23:10 tex/context/base/core-two.mkiv 1646 10-11-06 23:56 tex/context/base/core-uti.mkiv 5637 10-30-06 00:56 tex/context/base/core-ver.mkiv 589 09-18-06 11:28 tex/context/base/lang-sla.mkiv 4293 10-26-06 13:10 tex/context/base/meta-pdf.mkiv 1001 09-26-06 16:41 tex/context/base/regi-ini.mkiv 549 09-18-06 20:01 tex/context/base/spec-def.mkiv 642 10-17-06 15:21 tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv 1448 10-07-06 14:14 tex/context/base/supp-fil.mkiv 3791 09-22-06 09:12 tex/context/base/syst-cat.mkiv 1022 09-18-06 13:41 tex/context/base/syst-con.mkiv 506 10-13-06 18:18 tex/context/base/syst-rtp.mkiv 899 09-18-06 19:39 tex/context/base/syst-str.mkiv 2328416 11-15-06 15:03 tex/context/base/char-def.lua 4955 09-19-06 11:32 tex/context/base/char-ini.lua 5596 10-23-06 00:52 tex/context/base/context.lua 12071 10-30-06 01:29 tex/context/base/core-buf.lua 5655 09-19-06 11:32 tex/context/base/core-con.lua 948 10-19-06 21:06 tex/context/base/core-obj.lua 2802 10-19-06 21:07 tex/context/base/core-pos.lua 2050 10-19-06 21:07 tex/context/base/core-two.lua 573 10-19-06 21:07 tex/context/base/core-uti.lua 3473 10-27-06 12:16 tex/context/base/luat-crl.lua 4595 09-16-06 12:12 tex/context/base/luat-deb.lua 5923 10-20-06 19:18 tex/context/base/luat-env.lua 2205 10-23-06 10:10 tex/context/base/luat-exe.lua 326 09-13-06 19:09 tex/context/base/luat-ini.lua 69791 11-18-06 00:39 tex/context/base/luat-inp.lua 5029 10-23-06 10:10 tex/context/base/luat-iop.lua 4187 10-11-06 18:57 tex/context/base/luat-kps.lua 13613 11-16-06 22:32 tex/context/base/luat-lib.lua 4066 10-23-06 14:51 tex/context/base/luat-lmx.lua 2106 11-21-06 15:24 tex/context/base/luat-tra.lua 585 09-13-06 19:08 tex/context/base/luat-uni.lua 14132 11-03-06 17:12 tex/context/base/meta-pdf.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-1.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-10.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-11.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-13.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-14.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-15.lua 2405 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-16.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-2.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-3.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-4.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-5.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-6.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-7.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-8.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-8859-9.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1250.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1251.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1252.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1253.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1254.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1255.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1256.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1257.lua 2403 08-30-06 02:25 tex/context/base/regi-cp1258.lua 3055 09-16-06 00:25 tex/context/base/regi-ini.lua 609 09-18-06 19:57 tex/context/base/spec-pdf.lua 2195 10-26-06 15:58 tex/context/base/supp-fil.lua 1013 09-16-06 12:33 tex/context/base/syst-con.lua 8463 10-31-06 22:52 tex/context/base/verb-lua.lua 10984 11-03-06 10:56 tex/context/base/verb-mp.lua 4855 10-29-06 21:31 tex/context/base/verb-tex.lua 1250 11-21-06 15:14 tex/context/base/luat-deb.tex 5298 10-22-06 01:01 tex/context/base/luat-env.tex 3647 09-28-06 20:18 tex/context/base/luat-ini.tex 1905 11-21-06 14:49 tex/context/base/luat-lib.tex 465 09-18-06 13:39 tex/context/base/luat-lmx.tex 1111 09-21-06 16:45 tex/context/base/luat-uni.tex 1165 09-18-06 13:39 tex/context/base/char-def.tex 513 09-18-06 13:39 tex/context/base/char-ini.tex 4386 09-15-06 19:13 tex/context/base/context-debug.lmx 2125 09-15-06 18:48 tex/context/base/context-error.lmx 4030 09-12-06 17:39 tex/context/base/context.css 15870 11-15-06 15:02 scripts/context/ruby/mtxtools.rb 11706 11-17-06 20:24 scripts/context/lua/luatools.lua -------- ------- 2674107 85 files
At least I would hope that char-def was created with some "cheating" then ;) And I'm really looking forward to verb-*.lua ;) Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
In the most recent release notes on contextgarden it is said:
I was really curious about what was going to stand on those pages (one of my temporary diffs was about 1MB long), but I really love Taco's most honest comment ;)
maybe you want to volunteer on the mkiv zip -)
Taco usually added them under "new files" only ;), so that shouldn't be as much work after all ;)
If I ever get really bored, I will go through the diff and write a brief summary of the non-mk changes, I've kept it in a safe place. (my main diff file for 2006.11.16 is 1.38 Mb, 39.630 lines) Taco
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
At least I would hope that char-def was created with some "cheating" then ;)
mtxtools
MtxTools | version 1.0.0 - 2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD MtxTools | --regimetable create regime table(s) for metatex/luatex MtxTools | --unicodetable create unicode table for metatex/luatex MtxTools | --xetextable create unicode table for xetex it uses the public unicode table + some more Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Wolfgang Schuster