At 06:41 AM 2/5/2003 +1300, you wrote:

Hans Hagen writes:

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1. After tinkering I could get the URW stuff working, but I want the Adobe.

the problem is that those fonts are no longer distributed, as well as that the glyohs widths differ per location

So the URW fonts are better?

afaik more stable; also, embedding the 15 base fonts is more safe for cross platform viewing (where they may be mapped onto whatever is available/demanded by the os) I thought I got them. pdftex is no longer including them, or list them

as included. However, in Adobe Acrobat Reader, when I look at the included fonts, the names look like Microsoft TTF names.

indeed, arial instead of helvetica and so Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:03:33 -0700 Matt Gushee wrote:

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:41:49AM +1300, Berend de Boer wrote:

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in principle it's just a matter of mapping the right names onto Serif etc, once you know what the filenames are (maybe in some psfonts.map file you can deduce the raw names)

I thought I got them. pdftex is no longer including them, or list them as included. However, in Adobe Acrobat Reader, when I look at the included fonts, the names look like Microsoft TTF names.

You mentioned tetex, and your e-mail client is GNUS, so I imagine you're probably running Linux. I don't know if this helps at all, but I just checked out the fonts in my Acrobat installation (Acrobat Reader 5.0 on Linux). The fonts are actually PostScript files ... which I guess means that they are Type 42. You should be able to confirm this with

less /path/to/Acrobat5/Resource/Font/Arial

Acrobat ships the font-outlines but not the font-metrics (AFMs). Thus you can not use them in pdfTeX, or only use them with the metrics from the URW fonts. It is far better to use/embed the URWs directly, since those fonts are real copies of the original Adobe fonts and not Arial-or-something-else variants by Monotype. Jens

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:03:33 -0700 Matt Gushee wrote:

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:41:49AM +1300, Berend de Boer wrote:

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in principle it's just a matter of mapping the right names onto Serif etc, once you know what the filenames are (maybe in some psfonts.map file you can deduce the raw names)

I thought I got them. pdftex is no longer including them, or list them as included. However, in Adobe Acrobat Reader, when I look at the included fonts, the names look like Microsoft TTF names.

You mentioned tetex, and your e-mail client is GNUS, so I imagine you're probably running Linux. I don't know if this helps at all, but I just checked out the fonts in my Acrobat installation (Acrobat Reader 5.0 on Linux). The fonts are actually PostScript files ... which I guess means that they are Type 42.

Run t1disasm on them and you'll see that they look suspiciously like regular PostScript Type1 fonts, with glyphs described with the usual PostScript operators. -- Siep Kroonenberg siep@elvenkind.com

Nagy Bence writes: Hello,

I have the same problem, but I couldn't find the right solution and URW fonts doesn't work too.

What do you mean by "doesn't work"? Patrick

On 06 Feb 2003 08:07:27 +1300 Berend de Boer wrote:

Nagy Bence writes:

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Has anyone been able to use the standard PDF postscript fonts with context? I recently upgraded to tetex 2.0, latest context, so had to restart with the font stuff. 1. After tinkering I could get the URW stuff working, but I want the Adobe. I have the same problem, but I couldn't find the right solution and URW fonts doesn't work too.

OK, what to do:

1. Run texfont on context/data/type-tmf.dat like this:

texfont --encoding=texnansi --fontroot=/usr/share/texmf --batch type-tmf.dat

That should produce the right .tmf files.

2. In your cont-sys.tex (/usr/local/texmf/tex/context/cont-sys.tex) have only the following:

==================== % This seems to be Hans preferred encoding \setupencoding[\s!default=texnansi] ====================

No other \usesetypescript, or \setupencoding should be present.

3. If you run this test file:

==================== \setupbodyfont [pos,10pt]

\starttext

hello world.

{\ss hello again!}

{\tt the end.}

\stoptext ====================

Since a complete teTeX installation should include the LaTeX PSNFSS package you don't need to generate the fonts (TFMs) yourself. Simply ==================== \usetypescript[berry][ec] \setupbodyfont [pos,10pt] \starttext hello world. {\ss hello again!} {\tt the end.} \stoptext ==================== should work. This will use T1 (aka ec) encoded fonts not the standard LY1 (aka texnansi) encoding. Therefore you have to setup the proper input regime (\enableregime) Jens

Thanks, it works, but now I have problem with the hungarian hyphenation. The patternfile uses T1 encoding (I think it's ec) and I have inserted the next line in cont-usr.tex: \installlanguage[\s!hu][\s!mapping=ec,\s!encoding=ec,\c!status=\v!start] To solve my hyphenation problem I tried the same but with ec encoding:

1. Run texfont on context/data/type-tmf.dat like this:

texfont --encoding=texnansi --fontroot=/usr/share/texmf --batch type-tmf.dat I made a copy from ec.enc (from TeXlive7, it fails in teTeX2.0), then

texfont --encoding=ec... Without copying the file it doesn't work.

2. In your cont-sys.tex (/usr/local/texmf/tex/context/cont-sys.tex) have only the following:

==================== % This seems to be Hans preferred encoding \setupencoding[\s!default=texnansi] ==================== \setupencoding[\s!default=ec]

4. Add the following to pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg

==================== map +texnansi-bitstrea-charter.map map +texnansi-public-antp.map map +texnansi-public-antt.map map +texnansi-urw-bookman.map map +texnansi-urw-courier.map map +texnansi-urw-helvetica.map map +texnansi-urw-palatino.map map +texnansi-urw-times.map map +texnansi-urw-zapfchan.map ==================== map +ec-bitstrea-charter.map ...

And the result: error messages, TeX doesn't find the fonts. Any idea? Greetings Bence Nagy

Hi all, which is the favourite TeX distribution? I want to use TeX both under linux and windows. Is TeXlive my choice? MikTeX under windows and teTeX under linux are smaller and more up-to-date and easier to upgrade, but I have such problems with configuring they.

No. Does it not find the .tfm? Can you show the error message?

Berend, thanks for your help. The interesting part of my logfile: system : cont-sys loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex typescript : [berry] [ec] [] . . . typescript : [map] [ec] [] (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-adobe-utopia.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-bit-charter.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antp.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antt.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-bookman.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-courier.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-helvetica.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-palatino.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-times.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-zapfchan.map pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-px.map pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-tx.map pdftex : needs map file: ec-bh-lucida.map ) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)) ! Font \*11ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 11.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. <to be read again> \relax \xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier \let \localrelativefontsiz... \fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname \tryingfontfalse \fi <inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr... \synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar... <argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle } \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if... ... l.28 \setupbodyfont[pos,11pt] Greetings Bence Nagy

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:

the tex user groups distribute tex-live, which is preconfigured for many os' s; updates fpr context can then be installed into a local texmf tree

Once I get the last of my font problems (more of these tomorrow, when I have a work day) and some other less important things fixed, I'll write "Windows language" instructions on how to install and run TeXLive+ConTeXt in Windows (after three years of teaching so called "ordinary people" I speak good "Windows", which may help). As TeXLive ships with easy-to-install NTEmacs, I'm also including instructions on how to profit from Berend's context.el for maximum ease and maybe other Windows tricks as well. (Is somebody here good at drawing Windows icons [.ico]? I'd need several for the different Windows shortcuts for the "I'd rather double-click" people...) BTW, I may not have any very permanent home for the above-mentioned Windows instruction pages as I'll lose my university account when I finally get my masters - any ideas of where to place the instructions? Greetings from the country of the frozen sea, Mari

At 01:30 PM 2/6/2003 +0200, mari.voipio@iki.fi wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:

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the tex user groups distribute tex-live, which is preconfigured for many os' s; updates fpr context can then be installed into a local texmf tree

Once I get the last of my font problems (more of these tomorrow, when I have a work day) and some other less important things fixed, I'll write "Windows language" instructions on how to install and run TeXLive+ConTeXt in Windows (after three years of teaching so called "ordinary people" I speak good "Windows", which may help).

As TeXLive ships with easy-to-install NTEmacs, I'm also including instructions on how to profit from Berend's context.el for maximum ease

there's also patricks emacs extension, providing help on commands and so

and maybe other Windows tricks as well. (Is somebody here good at drawing Windows icons [.ico]? I'd need several for the different Windows shortcuts for the "I'd rather double-click" people...)

Were do you needd the icons for? I can metapost a few -) [done so recently for the example framework]

BTW, I may not have any very permanent home for the above-mentioned Windows instruction pages as I'll lose my university account when I finally get my masters - any ideas of where to place the instructions?

we can put 'm on the third party page on our web site also, if its's for windows, fptex may want to include them (Fabrice POPINEAU ) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 12:07 AM 2/6/2003 +0100, Nagy Bence wrote:

ap +ec-bitstrea-charter.map

You mean the bitstream? There are differences between bitstream paths: bit bitstrea bitstream etc so let's first ask the distribution experts what the latest status is with regards to the 'official name for the bitstream font path' Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

'official name for the bitstream font path'

fontname/supplier.map (aka "Berry scheme") has: b bitstrea The "TeX directory standard" (TDS) says that fonts are stored as <type>/<supplier>/<typeface> I don't think that the TDS explicitly says that one has to obey the Berry scheme, but that's what I do. Thomas