Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

Christoph Hintermüller

15 Apr 2020 15 Apr '20

5:47 p.m.

Hi Jet a completely different question just out of curiosity? 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template? 3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware? (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother) Best Xristoph -- Christoph Hintermueller Eisenhandstraße 33/23 4020 Linz Austria Tel.: +43 650 8827347 mail: christoph@out-world.com www: http://www.out-world.com

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Henning Hraban Ramm

15 Apr 15 Apr

7:18 p.m.

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Am 15.04.2020 um 17:47 schrieb Christoph Hintermüller :

1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

IRCPS’s journals are typeset with ConTeXt. https://ircps.org Also, our (Verlag Dreiviertelhaus) publications are mostly typeset with ConTeXt, including the magazine on German literature, Kritische Ausgabe. https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de Best, Hraban

denis.maier.lists＠mailbox.org

10:52 p.m.

Hi,

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1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using ConTeXt.)

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2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

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3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware? (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)

Don't know. Perhaps more examples? Best, Denis

Henning Hraban Ramm

16 Apr 16 Apr

9:02 a.m.

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Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org:

Hi,

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1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

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2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, the better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last week I had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. every line was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his pages – of course my script couldn’t handle that well.)

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3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware? (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)

Don't know. Perhaps more examples?

Even LaTeX is a niche; there are not enough users of ConTeXt for it to look reliable, I guess. You can’t really use it without involving yourself in the community. And while I generally love working with ConTeXt, I’m cursing it often enough for unexpected/undocumented behaviour, unfinished features and scattered documentation. My book is intended to fix the latter, but there’s no progress – I got too many different projects and severe limitations of working capacity. And children at home... Best, Hraban

denis.maier.lists＠mailbox.org

10:26 a.m.

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Henning Hraban Ramm hat am 16. April 2020 09:02 geschrieben:

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I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

Well, it's not field tested yet. But yes, the demo files work.

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2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, the better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last week I had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. every line was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his pages – of course my script couldn’t handle that well.)

Yeah, as always, the output is only as good as the input. That's partly why I use pandoc (twice, actually.) In a first run, I produce a normalized markdown file, where such idiosyncrasies are removed. There, I then add additional formatting. In the second run I can then produce the XML. We need the XML to produce a nice web view using the Lens Viewer. And also, with pandoc it's much easier to produce XML than ConTeXt. Best, Denis

luigi scarso

10:32 a.m.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org:

I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt.

c# under linux is also a valid option. -- luigi

Hans Hagen

12:24 p.m.

On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org:

Hi,

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1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay (assuming a proper font setup) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

denis.maier.lists＠mailbox.org

2:03 p.m.

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Hans Hagen hat am 16. April 2020 12:24 geschrieben:

On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org:

Hi,

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1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay (assuming a proper font setup)

Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic right... Denis

Hans Hagen

19 Apr 19 Apr

12:16 p.m.

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Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic right... Well, just try it, and when it fails we figure it out. I don't know what

On 4/16/2020 2:03 PM, denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org wrote: the difference is between those two arabics but in the end it's all about jugling glyphs and some typographic conventions / differences I guess. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Pablo Rodriguez

16 Apr 16 Apr

9:53 a.m.

On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org wrote:

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2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

Do you plan to release the slides of these talks? Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

Arthur Reutenauer

10 a.m.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

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On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org wrote:

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Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/4... and https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/4... Arthur

Pablo Rodriguez

4:04 p.m.

On 4/16/20 10:00 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

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[...] Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/4... and https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/4....

Many thanks for the links, Arthur. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

denis.maier.lists＠mailbox.org

10:05 a.m.

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Pablo Rodriguez hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben:

On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org wrote:

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2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/ Best, Denis

Pablo Rodriguez

4:05 p.m.

On 4/16/20 10:05 AM, denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org wrote:

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Pablo Rodriguez hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben: [...] Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/

Many thanks for the links, Denis. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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