Am 01.03.2015 um 22:56 schrieb Gerben Wierda :

On 01 Mar 2015, at 11:59, Hans Hagen mailto:pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

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On 3/1/2015 11:48 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

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I’m trying to migrate to mkiv and I’m running into a host of troubles. Here is one:

publications > wrote a new auxiliary file 'prd_book.aux' This is BibTeX, Version 0.99d (TeX Live 2014) The top-level auxiliary file: prd_book.aux The style file: cont-no.bst I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux : \bibdata{gwierda : }

The reason is that by using this command

(. /usr/local/src/ConTeXt/tex/setuptex && context test.tex)

I may have the latest ConTeXt compiling test.tex (it just adds that to te front of PATH), but I’ve lost access to additions I keep in /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local and ~/Library/texmf)

How do I make sure the standalone ConTeXt gets access to these?

you can try \usemodule[oldbibtex]

Doesn’t change the problem. It won’t find files outside the standalone ConTeXt tree.

I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux : \bibdata{gwierda : }

Where do you have your bib file? Wolfgang

Am 01.03.2015 um 23:16 schrieb Gerben Wierda :

On 01 Mar 2015, at 23:04, Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

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Am 01.03.2015 um 22:56 schrieb Gerben Wierda mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

On 01 Mar 2015, at 11:59, Hans Hagen mailto:pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

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On 3/1/2015 11:48 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

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I’m trying to migrate to mkiv and I’m running into a host of troubles. Here is one:

publications > wrote a new auxiliary file 'prd_book.aux' This is BibTeX, Version 0.99d (TeX Live 2014) The top-level auxiliary file: prd_book.aux The style file: cont-no.bst I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux : \bibdata{gwierda : }

The reason is that by using this command

(. /usr/local/src/ConTeXt/tex/setuptex && context test.tex)

I may have the latest ConTeXt compiling test.tex (it just adds that to te front of PATH), but I’ve lost access to additions I keep in /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local and ~/Library/texmf)

How do I make sure the standalone ConTeXt gets access to these?

you can try \usemodule[oldbibtex]

Doesn’t change the problem. It won’t find files outside the standalone ConTeXt tree.

I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux : \bibdata{gwierda : }

Where do you have your bib file?

~/Library/texmf

The minimals use ~/texmf for the local tex folder. Wolfgang

On 3/2/2015 7:42 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

On 02 Mar 2015, at 00:15, Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

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Am 01.03.2015 um 23:16 schrieb Gerben Wierda mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

On 01 Mar 2015, at 23:04, Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

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Am 01.03.2015 um 22:56 schrieb Gerben Wierda mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:

On 01 Mar 2015, at 11:59, Hans Hagen mailto:pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

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On 3/1/2015 11:48 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > I’m trying to migrate to mkiv and I’m running into a host of > troubles. > Here is one: > > publications > wrote a new auxiliary file 'prd_book.aux' > This is BibTeX, Version 0.99d (TeX Live 2014) > The top-level auxiliary file: prd_book.aux > The style file: cont-no.bst > I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib > ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux > : \bibdata{gwierda > : } > > > The reason is that by using this command > > (. /usr/local/src/ConTeXt/tex/setuptex && context test.tex) > > I may have the latest ConTeXt compiling test.tex (it just adds > that to > te front of PATH), but I’ve lost access to additions I keep in > /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local and ~/Library/texmf) > > How do I make sure the standalone ConTeXt gets access to these?

you can try \usemodule[oldbibtex]

Doesn’t change the problem. It won’t find files outside the standalone ConTeXt tree.

I couldn't open database file gwierda.bib ---line 3 of file prd_book.aux : \bibdata{gwierda : }

Where do you have your bib file?

~/Library/texmf

The minimals use ~/texmf for the local tex folder.

Can I adapt that in some way, so I can add a few texmfs to the search path? I have no problem with adapting a file or setting an environment variable.

texmfcnf.lua (can be in your texmf-local tree) or the TEXMF env var; not so different from regular texlive, only in a different configuration file -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 3/4/2015 2:52 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:

Am Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:36:57 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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Can I adapt that in some way, so I can add a few texmfs to the search path? I have no problem with adapting a file or setting an environment variable.

texmfcnf.lua (can be in your texmf-local tree) or the TEXMF env var; not so different from regular texlive, only in a different configuration file

I have a question regarding texmcnf.lua + TEXMCNF:

On my system TEXMFCNF points to a folder where I have a special texmf.cnf that I need for texlive.

This disturbs context:

resolvers | resolving | looking for 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path 'D:/texmfcnf/' from specification 'D:/texmfcnf/'

and as there is not texmfcnf.lua the search pathes can't be setup.

the weird is just reported because normally there is something texmf or web2c in the name which isn't the case there

I would like to add a texmfcnf.lua there which helps context to find and load the standard configuration. What should be the content of such a texmfcnf.lua?

I tried with

return { type = "configuration", version = "1.", date = "2015-03-04", time = "14:00:00", comment = "ConTeXt MkIV configuration file", author = "Ulrike Fischer", content = { variables = { TEXMFCNF = {"D:/context-minimals/context/tex/texmf/web2c"} } } }

but it didn't work ;-(. This doesn't setup the pathes.

I also tried dofile("D:/context-minimals/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua")

which didn't work either.

You can try in texmf-local/web2c: return { type = "configuration", version = "1.", date = "2015-03-04", time = "14:00:00", comment = "ConTeXt MkIV configuration file", author = "Ulrike Fischer", content = { variables = { -- texroot/texmf-mine/... TEXMFMINE = "selfautoparent:texmf-mine", TEXMF = "{$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFMODULES,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFSYSTEM,!!$TEXMFMAIN,!!$TEXMFMINE}", } } } ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 3/4/2015 7:06 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:

Am Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:58:24 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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You can try in texmf-local/web2c: ...

This doesn't help: context never looks in texmf-local/web2c. It looks into D:/texmfcnf and then stops.

hm, normally it will look relative to the binary, in trees/web2c paths

But I just realized that I have actually two context (one in texlive 2014) and trying to setup the systems with a texmfcnf.lua will probably give a complete mess. So I will revert to my normal system where I change the environment variables first.

ok; taking bins from one tex tree (full tree) and expecting them to work with another one is tricky due all this auto-magic; in that case setting the TEXMF variable as environment variable might help (in general it's best to use a context garden tree with garden binaries as there we use beta bins) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hello, when you want to use your personal (additional) path (but apparently not a tree), e.g. for styles (environments), you can use --path switch: " context.exe --path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles MyFile.tex " (Source: "context.exe --help") (Once I tried also: " set TeXMFLocal=c:\MyName\MyContextStyles & context.exe MyFile.tex " but ConTeXt doesn't look for TeXMFLocal nor TeXMF-Local environment paths, as I believed.) I didn't test whether "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles//" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/*" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/**" causes Ctx to use the whole tree instead of one path. Best regards, Lukas

texmfcnf.lua (can be in your texmf-local tree) or the TEXMF env var; not so different from regular texlive, only in a different configuration file

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On 3/6/2015 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

we have a runtime tree search with:

context --path=tree://e:/tmp/whatever/**/ --global somefile.tex

which is quite ok for jobs that involve not that many files

and a cached-across-jobs search with

context --path=dirfile://e:/tmp/whatever --global somefile.tex

(in that case you need to delete dirlist.tuc in the given path when you add or remove files)

the second one we use here in automated runs on servers where books are generated from thousands of small files sitting on an nfs share and this speeds up the search

the --global bypasses the check for a valid file

btw, this is explained in the recent workflow manual ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 3/6/2015 1:08 PM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

Thanks for explanation, I didn't know about that...

i guess that there is a lot of stuff deep down only a few people know about (this is typical needed for more complex workflows) ... when i run into them i'll try to document them in 'workflows' but suggestions are welcome (right now Alan is updating the new publications manual which will have some 8000 pages of tricky details and hidden features that we forget about as soon as we've added them)

Lukas

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:52:47 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 3/6/2015 9:22 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

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Hello,

when you want to use your personal (additional) path (but apparently not a tree), e.g. for styles (environments), you can use --path switch:

" context.exe --path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles MyFile.tex "

(Source: "context.exe --help")

(Once I tried also:

" set TeXMFLocal=c:\MyName\MyContextStyles & context.exe MyFile.tex "

but ConTeXt doesn't look for TeXMFLocal nor TeXMF-Local environment paths, as I believed.)

I didn't test whether "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles//" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/*" or "--path=c:\MyDirectory\MyContextStyles/**" causes Ctx to use the whole tree instead of one path.

why should it ... a path is a path unless specified otherwise

we have a runtime tree search with:

context --path=tree://e:/tmp/whatever/**/ --global somefile.tex

which is quite ok for jobs that involve not that many files

and a cached-across-jobs search with

context --path=dirfile://e:/tmp/whatever --global somefile.tex

(in that case you need to delete dirlist.tuc in the given path when you add or remove files)

the second one we use here in automated runs on servers where books are generated from thousands of small files sitting on an nfs share and this speeds up the search

the --global bypasses the check for a valid file

Hans

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