Hi, There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon). This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different. Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Hi,
There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon).
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different.
this is very good news. most runtime here is wasted by calling and interfacing with mp. many thanks to you and taco for the great work. i'll test this intensively as soon as i get my hands on it. best wishes, peter
Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes.
Hans
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On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Hi,
There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon).
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different.
Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes.
Hans
Hi Hans, I just downloaded and payed with it very very briefly - it works, and it seems A LOT faster with my presentations, where every background is calculated by metapost. For this sort of file, luatex now looks a lot faster than pdftex. I'm looking forward to comparing speed some more. Thanks and kudos to Taco and to you! All best Thomas
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
I just downloaded and payed with it very very briefly - it works, and it seems A LOT faster with my presentations, where every background is calculated by metapost. For this sort of file, luatex now looks a lot faster than pdftex. I'm looking forward to comparing speed some more. Thanks and kudos to Taco and to you!
the mk test document, which now ha ssome 220 pages, processes at a speed of 10 pages per minute on my machines, which includes startup, loading a nbbunch of huge fonts, lots of mp graphics, etc .. my impression is that eventually luatex/mkiv will not be that much slower than pdftex sp when one takes into account that open type fonts are used (when lots of mp graphics are used and the new xml machinery ... luatex/mkiv is definitely faster) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Hans Hagen
Hi,
There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon).
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different. ctangle is needed to compile mplib; I still have problems with \setupxtexternalfigures (can't resolve images) i hope today to have time to watch this, maybe tomorrow :)
btw "under our nose, the revolution grows" -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org
luigi scarso wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Hans Hagen
wrote: Hi,
There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon).
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different. ctangle is needed to compile mplib; I still have problems with \setupxtexternalfigures (can't resolve images) i hope today to have time to watch this, maybe tomorrow :)
externalfigure works here, so i need to have more specifics about your failure ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
externalfigure works here, so i need to have more specifics about your failure
simple sample in attach -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:18, Hans Hagen a écrit :
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different.
What will allow mplib in luatex the future? - Will it be only a way to write Metapost code without having to call external system program (better performance)? - Or will it be possible to write figures in lua instead of Metapost? (would be great!!) Another question about ConTeXt mkiv installation Is possible to use a local full ConTeXt distrib (with basic fonts, mplib, lua) **without interference** with existant texlive distribution (i.e. without using all the *_TEX environment variables thanks to ConTeXt mkiv ?) I'd like to maintain some "hot" Thank you very much -- Maurice
Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes.
Hans
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Maurice Diamantini wrote:
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:18, Hans Hagen a écrit :
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different.
What will allow mplib in luatex the future?
the future is already there
- Will it be only a way to write Metapost code without having to call external system program (better performance)?
indeed, no mp calls any more
- Or will it be possible to write figures in lua instead of Metapost? (would be great!!)
well, in principle i could write something for that, but it's not on the agenda
Another question about ConTeXt mkiv installation
Is possible to use a local full ConTeXt distrib (with basic fonts, mplib, lua) **without interference** with existant texlive distribution (i.e. without using all the *_TEX environment variables thanks to ConTeXt mkiv ?)
it's what i do here ... luatex alongside pdftex/xetex Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Maurice Diamantini
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:18, Hans Hagen a écrit :
This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different.
What will allow mplib in luatex the future? - Will it be only a way to write Metapost code without having to call external system program (better performance)?
Now mp code is processed by luatex through the mplib without to call the external system program.
- Or will it be possible to write figures in lua instead of Metapost? (would be great!!)
I think so, especially when dealing with non-metapost data ( for example, use lua to parse/process the data and push them to the mplib). Lua is more like a programming language than metapost, new users will learn it with less pain, of course. I strongly suggest there should be such a interface. but Taco said such lua interface might never exist:( Last year, Hans made a new math interface like TI calculator based on Lua to show it is powerful. I think such Lua like metapost interface can also exist even it is somewhat incomplete(neglect the linear equation solver, for instance).
Another question about ConTeXt mkiv installation
Is possible to use a local full ConTeXt distrib (with basic fonts, mplib, lua) **without interference** with existant texlive distribution (i.e. without using all the *_TEX environment variables thanks to ConTeXt mkiv ?)
Of course. try the minimals.
I'd like to maintain some "hot"
Thank you very much
-- Maurice
Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes.
Hans
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participants (6)
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Hans Hagen
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luigi scarso
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Maurice Diamantini
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Peter Rolf
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Thomas A. Schmitz
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Yue Wang