This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
Hello list
the whole error message I get is
tex error > tex error on line 90 in file ./atestinminion-context.mkiv: Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id 8 in style 0 is not set
<macro> \m_operator_text
\endgroup \Ustopmathmode
<macro> \m_operator_text
\stopforceddisplaymath
\egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
<macro> \m_operator_text
\endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
\afterdisplayspace \egroup
<macro> \m_operator_text
\strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
\dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
\stopformula
Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This is normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your font set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier. What parameter is this referring to here? If I were to load sans it finishes off without errors on the math side, but then again, doesn't load sans at all mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf, minionpro-regular.otf And as you can guess, the above is not I was looking forward to -- Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space.
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:46:42PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context wrote:
Oh. That's what the math slot refers to then! I didn't buy it. I've been shoved acroread before without asking and I had the whole set sans math thanks Mikael
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With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification, whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co without an error I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret
thanks Mikael
thanks again Mikael for clarifying it. I wasn't sure.
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On 5/9/2023 6:24 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
Although every math environment is possible (after all there are not than manyu math fonts) one always has to match them properly with serif and sans fonts (relative scaling etc). When someone wants support for some commercial font, they have to buy us a few copies with no constraints. (Normally in a project we just get them anyway.) There are plenty of examples in the type-imp-* files that show the way. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 07:00:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
Thanks for the info Hans. I'll check it out again. About a month or so ago I went over the fonts used in math with luatex lmtx and it was more of a refreshing course than anything else. TeX Gyre and so forth. And a similar approach which I used in handling these fonts in mkii before. Recently someone made the suggestion of working or the intent to work or the suggestion or whatever of tackling mnssymbol on luatex. I don't know about that but.. I don't know. Perhaps I misunderstood I've used this family of minion and myriad before, but I still think it has the same audience than the glyphs used by the chinese at the beginning of the typesetting history> weddings, funerals, pamphlets, etiquette cards, calendars, arithmetic tables and so forth. It has more flare than perhaps a lucida. But the latter, subjectively speaking, is perhaps more dry but also more straightforward and legible. For me anyway. But when I see that a simple page and nothing fancy really, cannot be processed under lmtx no matter how much tweaking is performed under the hood something is not quite right the same (similar) screenshot attached here is under latex. Something similar is what I wanted to have, but couldn't. I'll check out your suggestion. Thanks again Hans
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On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 05:28:11PM -0400, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
By the way. Slightly unrelated to all of this but your paper on tug about the adjustments to lucida is impressive. https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb43-3/tb135hagen-lucida.pdf But lucida is also just an uncial descendant. Bland, squashed, and easily complex to adjust because of those very same features. Lo and behold if anything like that is tried out on minion for that matter. But for readability purposes, lucida is definitely a step ahead. This is all subjective of course. thanks for that work and paper on lucida Hans, Mikael
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On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 07:00:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
I checked the type-imp-* file. Unicode-math from latex had no issues on two different systems one running a full TeXLive and the other on e customized on-demand package installatino but that part you said in the beginning:
Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load
that's simply brilliant Hans \starttypescript [minionserif] \definetypeface [minionserif] [rm] [serif] [minionserif] [default] \definetypeface [minionserif] [ss] [sans] [minionsans] [default] % \definetypeface [minionsans] [mm] [math] [minionserif] [default]
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in other words, this is wanted mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: minionpro-bold.otf, minionpro-it.otf, minionpro-regular.otf, myriadpro-regular.otf but then again, it's not possible without the preloaded latinmodern-math if a math environment is included.
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