On 04/03/2014 04:19 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 4/2/2014 3:17 PM, Stéphane Goujet wrote:

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3) linenumbering does not work within footnotes (neither with line numbers in margin nor in text).

i've added support for notes (somewhat tricky)

Sorry, but I cannot refrain from asking: how about having line numbers in \setupnote and being optional to have different or the same counting than the rest of the page? Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

On 2014-04-03 13:16, Stéphane Goujet wrote:

Le Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:19:18 +0200, Hans Hagen a écrit :

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you probably didn't test with the beta because most looks ok Dammit, you are right. And yet I was using fairly recent versions (25/03 and 27/03).

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with respect to text: you need to go narrower or set the distance to (e.g.) -1cm It seems I can indeed get nice results with

\setuplinenumbering[location=text] \startnarrower[left] \startlinenumbering

Thanks !

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i've added support for notes (somewhat tricky)

\starttext Here we have a footnote \footnote{% \startlinenumbering \input tufte A few numbers : 012345679. \par % somehow needed \stoplinenumbering } \stoptext Thank you again. To annoy you one more time, still one thing : the font size of the line numbers is the one of the main text, no the smaller one that numbers should have in the footnote part (just add a few numbers in the footnote text to compare easily).

As to the size in footnotes, try: \definelinenumbering[fntext] \setuplinenumbering[fntext][style=\ssxx] or similar. However, for the general case, there is still an issue with linenumbering that begins after the beginning of a paragraph. The work-around of \startnarrower cannot help in this case, since it appears to always start a new paragraph. Thus, it cannot be used to reproduce the form of quotation we are trying to replicate (from Thomas Bowdler, /The Family Shakespeare/, 1807):

Le Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:01:04 -0400, Rik Kabel a écrit :

On 2014-04-03 13:16, Stéphane Goujet wrote:

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Le Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:19:18 +0200, Hans Hagen a écrit :

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with respect to text: you need to go narrower or set the distance to (e.g.) -1cm It seems I can indeed get nice results with

\setuplinenumbering[location=text] \startnarrower[left] \startlinenumbering

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i've added support for notes (somewhat tricky)

\starttext Here we have a footnote \footnote{% \startlinenumbering \input tufte A few numbers : 012345679. \par % somehow needed \stoplinenumbering } \stoptext

As to the size in footnotes, try:

\definelinenumbering[fntext] \setuplinenumbering[fntext][style=\ssxx]

If I could avoid defining another set of different macros, I would prefer... (For I have already 2 start macros, 2 stop macros, and 1 intermediate macro: it already lacks a bit of automatising).

However, for the general case, there is still an issue with linenumbering that begins after the beginning of a paragraph. The work-around of \startnarrower cannot help in this case, since it appears to always start a new paragraph.

So, with the [before=] (and [after=] for continuing text after \stopnarrower), it is possible. Here is what I have done so far. Not too bad a result, but there are still 2 main problems: -- when the quotation begins after the beginning of the paragraph, the whole paragraph is affected by *narrower*; -- when the text continues after the end of the quotation, it is impossible to insert the *\par* that, as Hans noticed and told us, is needed to have *narrower* work, so it is as if there was no *narrower* and the whole line numbering of the paragraph is messed up. and 2 minor ones: -- no paragraph indentation in footnotes. -- Alignment of the first quoted paragraph in respect to the following quoted paragraphs is not perfect (because I use different symbols for the quotation opening («) and the quotation repetition (»), I guess). But this point is good enough for me. ========================== \setuppapersize[A4] \enableregime[utf-8] \mainlanguage[fr] \language[fr] \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \setupindenting[first,yes,medium] \setupnotation[footnote][location=margin] \define\repsym{»} \newdimen\repshift \repshift=.75em \definelinenumbering[repcite] \setuplinenumbering[repcite][location=text,command=\repmark,before=,after=] \definelinenumbering[repcitel] \setuplinenumbering[repcitel][location=text,command={\repsym\gobbleoneargument}] \defineexpandable[1]\repmark{\doifnot{#1}{1}{\repsym}} \definenarrower[narcite][left=\repshift,before=,after=] \define\startbloccite{\startnarcite[left]\setupindenting[first,yes,\dimexpr\parindent-\repshift]\startlinenumbering[repcite]«} \define\startbloccitel{\startnarcite[left]\setupindenting[first,yes,\dimexpr\parindent-\repshift]\startlinenumbering[repcitel]«} \define\stopbloccite{»\par\stoplinenumbering\stopnarrower} \define\stopbloccitel{»\stoplinenumbering\stopnarrower} \define\bloccitepar{\stoplinenumbering \par \startlinenumbering[repcite]\leavevmode\hbox to\repshift{\repsym}\hskip0pt } \starttext First check: «normal spacing of guillemets». Second check: a normal paragraph, to show {\bf normal right margin limit}. \input tufte «Third check : paragraph starting with guillemets.» Let's start with a quote block on a {\bf new line} : \startbloccite %First paragraph ({\bf quote repetition symbol is really not wanted here}): \input tufte (\the\hsize) Second paragraph ({\bf indenting and margins are correct}): \input tufte \bloccitepar Second paragraph ({\bf indenting and margins are correct}): \input tufte \bloccitepar Third paragraph ({\bf now I put a different sentence here to check hyphenation. Weird, it looks OK now, I cannot reproduce the overflow.}): \input tufte \stopbloccite Now, a quote block starting just there, {\bf in the middle of a line} ({\bf the problem is that \char`\\startnarrower affects the whole paragraph : every lines are narrowed, even the ones before the environment starts}):\startbloccitel\input tufte \bloccitepar \input tufte \stopbloccitel . This a bit of text at the end of the quotation. {\bf The whole paragraph is wrong because I could not end it with a \char`\\par}. And let's call a {\bf footnote}\footnote{\startbloccite\input tufte \bloccitepar \input tufte \stopbloccite}. {\bf Fine : quote repetition symbols do now appear in it. But there is no paragraph indentation.}. \stoptext ========================== Goodbye, Stéphane.

Le Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:02:41 -0400, Rik Kabel a écrit :

On 2014-04-03 20:15, Stéphane Goujet wrote:

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Here is what I have done so far. Not too bad a result, but there are still 2 main problems: -- when the quotation begins after the beginning of the paragraph, the whole paragraph is affected by *narrower*; -- when the text continues after the end of the quotation, it is impossible to insert the *\par* that, as Hans noticed and told us, is needed to have *narrower* work, so it is as if there was no *narrower* and the whole line numbering of the paragraph is messed up. That is the big one for me. As the example png I posted shows, I need to have support for multiple quoted sections and unquoted text at the end.

Same for me. I understand that it makes little sense (or perhaps no sense at all) for line numbering to deal with such situations; this is why in first post concerning our quotation matter, I was asking whether linenumbering would be the way to go or not. Goodbye, Stéphane.