Double bar means hyphen?
In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead. Is this combination documented somewhere? || -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400
John Culleton
In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.
Is this combination documented somewhere? ||
The default is supposed to be an en-dash, but this can be changed. See section 7.8 "Composed words" in "ConTeXt the Manual". -Bill -- Sattre Press Pagan Papers http://sattre-press.com/ by Kenneth Grahame info@sattre-press.com http://pp.sattre-press.com/
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 02:50:53PM -0500, wmcclain@salamander.com wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400 John Culleton
wrote: In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.
Is this combination documented somewhere? ||
The default is supposed to be an en-dash, but this can be changed. See section 7.8 "Composed words" in "ConTeXt the Manual".
I always use explicit hyphen like this: Don't second|-|guess me. -- --Ed L Cashin | PGP public key: ecashin@uga.edu | http://noserose.net/e/pgp/
Ed L Cashin said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:13 -0400:
I always use explicit hyphen like this:
Don't second|-|guess me.
If it really is always, you can save a little effort with: \setuphyphenmark[sign=-] (This relates to an issue I mentioned earlier: anyone notice how these compound word marks *don't* interact well with font handling/hanging?) adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
At 23:21 13/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Ed L Cashin said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:13 -0400:
I always use explicit hyphen like this:
Don't second|-|guess me.
If it really is always, you can save a little effort with:
\setuphyphenmark[sign=-]
(This relates to an issue I mentioned earlier: anyone notice how these compound word marks *don't* interact well with font handling/hanging?)
yes, sometimes they are boxed thingies and they don't hang; for this the concept of hanging should be extended (something \hangme {left} {right} {material}); i discussed this long ago with thanh but it didn't (yet) end up in pdftex -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
[this is going to bounce, because I'm posting from my travel account. forward only if you feel it necessary] Hans Hagen said this at Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:57:13 +0200:
\setuphyphenmark[sign=-]
(This relates to an issue I mentioned earlier: anyone notice how these compound word marks *don't* interact well with font handling/hanging?)
yes, sometimes they are boxed thingies and they don't hang; for this the
_Sometimes_? Is there any way of choosing a compound word mark that isn't a box (along the lines of the above)?
concept of hanging should be extended (something \hangme {left} {right} {material}); i discussed this long ago with thanh but it didn't (yet) end up in pdftex -)
Okay, thanks for the explanation! adam
The character is a compoundhyphen, actually created by mashing two hyphens together. Look at the definition in supp-lan.tex. It really doesn't work well in certain fonts where the hyphen is subtly shaped. cheers, adam John Culleton said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400:
In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.
Is this combination documented somewhere? || -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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