Hello, while reading through the PDF to ISO-9075-1 (SQL99), I noticed something I had never seen before in a PDF: the page numbers displayed by Acrobat matched exactly the ones in the document ... the beginning was even numbered with roman numbers and the actual content started again at "Page 1". From a quick research it seems that this functionality is in PDF since Acrobat 4 (that should be PDF 1.3, right?) and is most likely called "Custom Page Numbering". It would be amazing if ConTeXt/LuaTeX supports that too - especially if you produce documents for screen reading. Unfortunately I don't have access to the PDF Specification currently to give you more info - so I don't even know for sure how that feature is officially called. Anyway, I hope that idea/suggestion/wish finds positive reactions ... and I somehow hope that it isn't actually too hard to implement :-) Best Regards, Andreas.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Andreas Schneider wrote:
while reading through the PDF to ISO-9075-1 (SQL99), I noticed something I had never seen before in a PDF: the page numbers displayed by Acrobat matched exactly the ones in the document ... the beginning was even numbered with roman numbers and the actual content started again at "Page 1". From a quick research it seems that this functionality is in PDF since Acrobat 4 (that should be PDF 1.3, right?) and is most likely called "Custom Page Numbering". It would be amazing if ConTeXt/LuaTeX supports that too - especially if you produce documents for screen reading.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the PDF Specification currently to give you more info - so I don't even know for sure how that feature is officially called.
Anyway, I hope that idea/suggestion/wish finds positive reactions ... and I somehow hope that it isn't actually too hard to implement :-)
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed. Regards, Hartmut
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Hartmut Henkel wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Andreas Schneider wrote:
while reading through the PDF to ISO-9075-1 (SQL99), I noticed something I had never seen before in a PDF: the page numbers displayed by Acrobat matched exactly the ones in the document ... the beginning was even numbered with roman numbers and the actual content started again at "Page 1". From a quick research it seems that this functionality is in PDF since Acrobat 4 (that should be PDF 1.3, right?) and is most likely called "Custom Page Numbering". It would be amazing if ConTeXt/LuaTeX supports that too - especially if you produce documents for screen reading.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the PDF Specification currently to give you more info - so I don't even know for sure how that feature is officially called.
Anyway, I hope that idea/suggestion/wish finds positive reactions ... and I somehow hope that it isn't actually too hard to implement :-)
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed.
IIRC, the hyperref package in LaTeX supports this. I do not know if there is a direct ConTeXt support. Aditya
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Hartmut Henkel wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Andreas Schneider wrote:
while reading through the PDF to ISO-9075-1 (SQL99), I noticed
something I had never seen before in a PDF: the page numbers displayed by Acrobat matched exactly the ones in the document ... the beginning was even numbered with roman numbers and the actual content started again at "Page 1". From a quick research it seems that this functionality is in PDF since Acrobat 4 (that should be PDF 1.3, right?) and is most likely called "Custom Page Numbering". It would be amazing if ConTeXt/LuaTeX supports that too - especially if you produce documents for screen reading.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the PDF Specification currently to give you more info - so I don't even know for sure how that feature is officially called.
Anyway, I hope that idea/suggestion/wish finds positive reactions ... and I somehow hope that it isn't actually too hard to implement :-)
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed.
IIRC, the hyperref package in LaTeX supports this. I do not know if there is a direct ConTeXt support.
Not direct, but ConTeXt CAN do this: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/036947.html http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081016.174838.bff55fc9.en.html
Aditya
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Zhichu Chen wrote:
Not direct, but ConTeXt CAN do this: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/036947.html http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081016.174838.bff55fc9.en.html
Awesome, I'll try that right away. Thank you! Best Regards, Andreas.
On 9-6-2010 11:27, Hartmut Henkel wrote:
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed.
i think that i wrote code for it once (as with most new pdf features) but if it ever made it into the core ... i usually discard such things when viewers behave strange or unpredictable indeed it does not need a modified engine (most pdf things don't need a modification anyway) maybe if i'm bored i'll have a look at it (or when real strong arguments show up); the only advantage that i remember is that it's more convenient with printing a selecting page range Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 2010-06-10 um 10:30 schrieb Hans Hagen:
maybe if i'm bored i'll have a look at it (or when real strong arguments show up); the only advantage that i remember is that it's more convenient with printing a selecting page range
I consider it more professional when the displayed page number matches the "printed" one. E.g. if I prepare PDFs of magazines for download, I always change the custom page numbers of the cover to U1-U4, if the internal page numbering starts with 1 on PDF page 3. Similar, if there's a supplement in the middle. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
Hans Hagen wrote:
On 9-6-2010 11:27, Hartmut Henkel wrote:
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed.
i think that i wrote code for it once (as with most new pdf features) but if it ever made it into the core ... i usually discard such things when viewers behave strange or unpredictable
indeed it does not need a modified engine (most pdf things don't need a modification anyway)
maybe if i'm bored i'll have a look at it (or when real strong arguments show up); the only advantage that i remember is that it's more convenient with printing a selecting page range
Hans
I tried the given example(s), but it seems that \pdfcatalog{} doesn't currently work in MkIV (minimals, beta). The same example compiled fine in MkII. (I was trying the following code: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081016.174838.bff55fc9.en.html) Best Regards, Andreas.
Hartmut Henkel wrote:
it's named "Page Labels" (never seen before, thanks for the pointer), in the PDF Reference 5th ed. it's in section 8.3.1, the example 8.3 there typed into \pdfcatalog{} works right away, so no luatex engine modification needed.
Thank you for digging up the correct term! Now my search results also look more promising :) Best Regards, Andreas.
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