Hi Alan, I'm writing a thesis in ConTeXt so I'm keen to make this work. I can test things, and I hope that the basics of APA are covered already? Also, a temporary solution could be to allow explicit choice of the citation format and to rely on the author to make the proper choice, as long as automatic formatting hasn't been completed. All I want in the short term is to keep track of references to show them in a proper format - it needn't be easy and/or automatic for now. Best,​ Sander Maijers On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

Hello,

These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which can be a bit tricky.

The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still work in progress and is not quite "production" ready. The new subsystem was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.

You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me directly as I am presently working on this with Hans "in my spare time" (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not solve your immediate problem, however.

Alan

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200 Sander Maijers wrote:

...

Hi all,

I use

...

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)

ConTeXt ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta fmt: 2014.9.30 int: english/english

I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:

http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-sty...

...

l

*Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, "et al." appears in the first citation.

*Example*:

\setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]

...

\setuppublications[alternative=apa]

\starttext \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012] \cite[Zhou2012] \stoptext

Incorrectly produces:

...

(Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)

Instead of:

...

(Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012)

Where the BibTeX entry is

...

@inproceedings{Zhou2012, address = {New York, New York, USA}, annote = {2/5}, author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}, booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion}, doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201}, isbn = {9781450312301}, keywords = {classification,community question answering,question routing}, month = apr, pages = {783}, publisher = {ACM Press}, title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in community question answering}}, url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201}, year = {2012} }

I hope someone can help me with this.

Best regards, Sander Maijers

-- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr

Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually. Best, Sander Maijers On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

Hello,

These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which can be a bit tricky.

The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still work in progress and is not quite "production" ready. The new subsystem was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.

You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me directly as I am presently working on this with Hans "in my spare time" (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not solve your immediate problem, however.

Alan

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200 Sander Maijers wrote:

...

Hi all,

I use

...

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)

ConTeXt ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta fmt: 2014.9.30 int: english/english

I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:

http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-sty...

...

l

*Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, "et al." appears in the first citation.

*Example*:

\setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]

...

\setuppublications[alternative=apa]

\starttext \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012] \cite[Zhou2012] \stoptext

Incorrectly produces:

...

(Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)

Instead of:

...

(Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012)

Where the BibTeX entry is

...

@inproceedings{Zhou2012, address = {New York, New York, USA}, annote = {2/5}, author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}, booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion}, doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201}, isbn = {9781450312301}, keywords = {classification,community question answering,question routing}, month = apr, pages = {783}, publisher = {ACM Press}, title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in community question answering}}, url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201}, year = {2012} }

I hope someone can help me with this.

Best regards, Sander Maijers

-- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr