Hello, I have several problems with the bibliography module in last stable (2005.12.19). You can find a minimal (well, as minimal as I was able to prepare ;) example at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xantos/biblio-example.tgz . First, starting with the second page of bibliography, the beginnings of lines are not aligned to the left. Moreover, some entries produce an empty line after them. It seems probable that some unwanted spaces appear in the macros. In "misc" entries, only authors and titles are typeset. See the very first entry cited in the document (Ha\v{z}muk): it contains howpublished and month and they are ignored. BTW, is the \cite inside the bibliography entry likely to work? Can I correct my setups somehow to override those problems? Thanks a lot, D.A. -- I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain
Hi David, If \setupcite[compress=no] is acceptable to you, then I suggest getting the latest beta of the bib module: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051123b.zip That should take care of your first points. The "misc" entries need an adjusted (better) definition of \setuppublicationlayout. Try this (in your preamble): \setuppublicationlayout[misc]{% \insertauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}% \insertpubyear{(\insertmonth{}{, }{}}{). }{}% \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}. }{}% \insertpublisher{}{. }{\inserthowpublished{}{. }{}}% \insertpages{}{p. }{}% \insertnote{ }{.}{}% } Last I checked, \cite within the biblist typesets correctly, but it does not actually make the record appear in the list unless it is also cited elsewhere. (the reason behind that is that it is apparently not possible to add stuff to a \definelist-ed list while that same list is being typeset). Cheers, Taco David Antos wrote:
Hello,
I have several problems with the bibliography module in last stable (2005.12.19).
You can find a minimal (well, as minimal as I was able to prepare ;) example at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xantos/biblio-example.tgz .
First, starting with the second page of bibliography, the beginnings of lines are not aligned to the left.
Moreover, some entries produce an empty line after them. It seems probable that some unwanted spaces appear in the macros.
In "misc" entries, only authors and titles are typeset. See the very first entry cited in the document (Ha\v{z}muk): it contains howpublished and month and they are ignored. BTW, is the \cite inside the bibliography entry likely to work?
Can I correct my setups somehow to override those problems?
Thanks a lot, D.A.
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:56:01PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051123b.zip
That should take care of your first points.
Hello, yes, it works great!
Last I checked, \cite within the biblist typesets correctly, but it does not actually make the record appear in the list unless it is also cited elsewhere.
Great, it's pretty reasonable. Two minor issues: I've included URL's into notes in bib file in the following format note = {\useURL[http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/] [http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/] \url[http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/]} It used to work well, with the latest version, the finishing ']' gets typeset. I've tried to surround the fiinal \url macro with {} but it does not work. And finally, I refer to bibliography in many chapters, so I need \setuplist[pubs][criterium=previous] in order to make the complete list. I refer to publications in the appendix that is placed *after* the bibliography. The entry from the appendix is not typeset by \placepublications. What is the correct \setuplist in this case? Thanks a lot, D.A. -- The crew should smile, wave to farmers, people on tractors, law enforcement, anyone else who is watching the balloon, and be polite at all times. -- FAA Balloon Flying Handbook (FAA-H-8083-11)
On 1/5/06, David Antos wrote:
I've included URL's into notes in bib file in the following format note = {\useURL[http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/] [http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/] \url[http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/]}
It used to work well, with the latest version, the finishing ']' gets typeset. I've tried to surround the fiinal \url macro with {} but it does not work.
\url was redefined (sorry, that may be my fault) for the use within bibtex. I don't know how to remove this little "bug", but I would insert URLs in the following way: Inside .bib, use url= instead of note= @Misc{compact-filter, key = {Compact Filter}, title = {{Compact Filter: An IDD Based Packet Filter for Linux}}, url = {http://www.cs.aau.dk/tilde-mixxel/cf/}, month = {August}, year = 2005 } See bibl-apa.tex. It doesn't include URLs by default (perhaps it should, but I don't know if it is still possible to do that without people complaining because of the slightly changed behaviour if they had url in their .bib files which were ignored before; comments?). The example above is an @Misc, so you have to adapt the style for misc to include url as well: \setuppublicationlayout[misc]{% \insertauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}% \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}% \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}. }{}% \insertpublisher{}{. }{}% \insertpages{}{p. }{}% \inserturl{}{}{}% ADDED \insertnote{ }{.}{}% } That way you'll get the desired output with much cleaner .bib files. You can also use \cite[url][compact-filter] to get an active url in the document. (Taco, what are the square brackets doing around the url in the resulting pdf?) (I don't know if you can make the entry on the last page active as well. In the example you didn't have it.) The bad news is that you would have to do that for every possible type of publication where you use URLs, but you used it in Misc only anyway, so no additional work is needed. Mojca
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:03:03PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
I don't know how to remove this little "bug", but I would insert URLs in the following way:
Hello, systematically, sure ;)
to get an active url in the document. (Taco, what are the square brackets doing around the url in the resulting pdf?)
Is there an easy way to remove the right square bracket? I don't need clickable URL's and I'm under extreme time pressure now. I'm sorry to say, but I'd be happy for an ugly hack ;) Thanks a lot, D.A. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). -- Matt Welsh
David Antos wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:03:03PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
I don't know how to remove this little "bug", but I would insert URLs in the following way:
Hello,
systematically, sure ;)
to get an active url in the document. (Taco, what are the square brackets doing around the url in the resulting pdf?)
Is there an easy way to remove the right square bracket? I don't need clickable URL's and I'm under extreme time pressure now. I'm sorry to say, but I'd be happy for an ugly hack ;)
Removing 'url' from the bibcommandlist (line 440 of t-bib.tex) should work out OK in your case. A 'nice' solution needs quite some thinking Cheers, Taco
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 08:46:13PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Removing 'url' from the bibcommandlist (line 440 of t-bib.tex) should work out OK in your case.
A 'nice' solution needs quite some thinking
Hello, it works fine. Thanks a lot! I have discovered a small typo in the bibl-apa.tex file: it uses "et.al." in many places. I believe that the correct form does not contain the dot after "et". Regards, D.A. -- Parental advisory: explicit mathematical expressions. -- Mgr. Miloš Liška
David Antos wrote:
I have discovered a small typo in the bibl-apa.tex file: it uses "et.al." in many places. I believe that the correct form does not contain the dot after "et".
Peter Münster reported the same thing ;-) This will be fixed in the upcoming beta (next week) Cheers, Taco
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David Antos
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Mojca Miklavec
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Taco Hoekwater