Piotr Kopszak wrote:

Any chance lua might change something here in the future?

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Only to show better how I would like text and images placed on the page. \definelayer [figure][width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight] \defineoverlay[figure][{\directsetup{figure}\tightlayer[figure]}] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=figure] \starttext \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \startsetups figure \setlayerframed[figure][x=.3\layerwidth,y=.2\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=4cm]} \setlayerframed[figure][x=.55\layerwidth,y=.4\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm]} \setlayerframed[figure][x=.4\layerwidth,y=.6\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm,height=4cm]} \stopsetups \stoptext 2009/5/12 luigi scarso :

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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Dear all,

I am close to give up, but maybe there is a solution... I have a book to typeset literally peppered with hundreds of little drawings which are supposed to appear irregularly surrounded by text flowing around them on all sides. -------------------------------- |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | |xxxxx-----xxxxxxxxxxxxxx| |xxxxx|     |xxxxxx----xxxx | |xxxxx|__|xxxxxx|     |xxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |__|xxxx| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| --------------------------------

I naively imagine that should not be that hard to implement ;) Since we already have overlays it's no problem to place images in arbitrary places. It only remains to drill white holes in the text to make room for them.  What about such procedure:

1. While building the line TeX checks if there is any overlay ahead. 2 if so, it puts empty hbox of the overlay width when it reaches necessary distance from the edge. 3. and does so for the number of lines which equal overlay height.

Of course that  leaves aside the problem of justification and without justification such page would probably look very ugly (I dare not to think if hz optimization, which I really got used to, would still work). Is there still hope I could stay with ConTeXt this time as well?

Many thanks for any ideas in advance

can you post a little example ? -- luigi

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But I want text in one column in the whole document. I was wondering however if I could mimick something similar with textflows but cannot understand the Dutch example in page-flw.tex. Piotr 2009/5/12 luigi scarso :

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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Only to show better how I would like text and images placed on the page.

\definelayer  [figure][width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight] \defineoverlay[figure][{\directsetup{figure}\tightlayer[figure]}] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=figure]

\starttext

\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}

\startsetups figure

\setlayerframed[figure][x=.3\layerwidth,y=.2\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=4cm]}

\setlayerframed[figure][x=.55\layerwidth,y=.4\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm]}

\setlayerframed[figure][x=.4\layerwidth,y=.6\layerheight]{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm,height=4cm]} \stopsetups

\stoptext

hmm what about columnsets ? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets

-- luigi

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Yes, exactly. 2009/5/12 luigi scarso :

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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But I want text in one column in the whole document. I was wondering however if I could mimick something similar with textflows but cannot understand the Dutch example in page-flw.tex.

Do you mean this ?

% Example (dutch) % % \stelpapierformaatin [S6] % \steltolerantiein    [soepel,rek] % \stelkleurenin       [status=start] % \stelvoetin          [strut=nee] % \stelwitruimtein     [groot] % % \stellayoutin %   [rechterrand=5cm,breedte=passend,marge=0pt,randafstand=1cm, %    voet=4cm,voetafstand=1cm,hoofd=0cm] % % \stelteksttekstenin[rand][][\vbox{\flushtextflow{alpha}}] % \stelvoettekstenin [rand][][\vbox{\flushtextflow{beta}}] % \stelvoettekstenin         [\vbox{\flushtextflow{gamma}}][] % % \definetextflow [alfa]  [breedte=\rechterrandbreedte] % \definetextflow [beta]  [breedte=\rechterrandbreedte] % \definetextflow [gamma] [breedte=\voethoogte] % % \starttekst % % \dorecurse{50} %   {\getrandomnumber{\funny}{0}{8} %    \ifcase\funny \starttextflow[alfa]  \input tufte.tex   \stoptextflow %    \or           \starttextflow[beta]  \input knuth.tex   \stoptextflow %    \or           \starttextflow[gamma] \input materie.tex \stoptextflow %    \or          {\bf   TUFTE}\quad \input tufte   \par %    \or          {\bf   TUFTE}\quad \input tufte   \par %    \or          {\bf   KNUTH}\quad \input knuth   \par %    \or          {\bf   KNUTH}\quad \input knuth   \par %    \or          {\bf MATERIE}\quad \input materie \par %    \else        {\bf MATERIE}\quad \input materie \par %    \fi} % % \stoptekst

-- luigi

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Right. If I understand correctly on the first look textflows appear in fixed locations on consecutive pages. I guess I'm banging my head against a wall but what about if it was possible to have them side by side on the same page? 2009/5/12 Wolfgang Schuster :

Am 12.05.2009 um 15:18 schrieb Piotr Kopszak:

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Yes, exactly.

\setuppapersize [S6] \setuptolerance [soepel,rek] \setupcolors    [state=start] \setupfooter    [strut=no] \setupwhitespace[big]

\setuplayout  [rightmargin=5cm,   width=fit,   margin=0pt,   edgedistance=1cm,   footer=4cm,   footerdistance=1cm,   header=0cm]

\setuptexttexts  [margin][][\vbox{\flushtextflow{alpha}}] \setupfootertexts[margin][][\vbox{\flushtextflow{beta}}] \setupfootertexts        [\vbox{\flushtextflow{gamma}}][]

\definetextflow [alfa]  [width=\rightmarginwidth] \definetextflow [beta]  [width=\rightmarginwidth] \definetextflow [gamma] [width=\footerheight]

\starttext

\dorecurse{50}  {\getrandomnumber{\funny}{0}{8}   \ifcase\funny \starttextflow[alfa]  \input tufte.tex   \stoptextflow   \or           \starttextflow[beta]  \input knuth.tex   \stoptextflow   \or           \starttextflow[gamma] \input materie.tex \stoptextflow   \or          {\bf   TUFTE}\quad \input tufte   \par   \or          {\bf   TUFTE}\quad \input tufte   \par   \or          {\bf   KNUTH}\quad \input knuth   \par   \or          {\bf   KNUTH}\quad \input knuth   \par   \or          {\bf MATERIE}\quad \input materie \par   \else        {\bf MATERIE}\quad \input materie \par   \fi}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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I think I more or less got the idea of what is possible. But let me describe my project. Maybe you might come up with a better solution. I'm going to typeset a diary written and drawn by an illustrator and graphic designer 70 years ago. What is unique, it consists of handwritten pages which were already composed for publication. So in fact I have to preserve both the juxtaposition of illustrations and the text (give or take line or two). As basically the text should not flow between pages I guess I could set the whole thing with layers only. The biggest problem seems how to control placement of layers so that the text inside them is set on the grid. Here is my initial setup for a single page. \definelayer [figure][width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight] \defineoverlay[figure][{\directsetup{figure}\tightlayer[figure]}] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=figure] \setuppagenumbering[location={footer,right}] \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,14pt] \starttext \startbuffer[zapf] \input zapf \stopbuffer \startbuffer[hawking] \input hawking \stopbuffer \flushlayer[figure] \startsetups figure \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=43mm]{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth,height=40mm]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=90mm,align=normal,width=\textwidth]{\getbuffer[zapf]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=80mm,y=150mm]{\externalfigure[cow][width=30mm,height=100mm]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=150mm,align=normal,width=50mm]{\getbuffer[hawking]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=120mm,y=150mm,align=normal,width=50mm]{\getbuffer[hawking]} \stopsetups \stoptext Of course, it looks like it's going to take couple of months of rather tedious manual work so any ideas how to make it easier are welcome. Piotr 2009/5/12 luigi scarso :

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Am 12.05.2009 um 15:18 schrieb Piotr Kopszak:

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Yes, exactly.

\setuppapersize [S6] \setuptolerance [soepel,rek]

better

\setuppapersize [S6][S6] \setuptolerance [tolerant,stretch] -- luigi

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Alan BRASLAU wrote:

\startchemical \color[red]{\chemical[ONE,SB,Z0][C]} \stopchemical % text "C" is offset...

add a % after the } (maybe we should ignore endofline, i.e. make a mkiv variant and extend/maintain that) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

i split ppchtex in mkii/mkiv (and included the fixes) so we can improve things eventually

can you check if it still runs ok (beta zip on website)

Hans

Unzipped cont-tmf.zip on top of my minimals installation and ran context on my current working documents: system : module chemic loaded (/usr/local/context.new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-chemic.tex (/usr/local/context.new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-chemic.mkiv system : module pictex loaded (/usr/local/context.new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-pictex.tex (/usr/local/context.new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/thrd-pic.tex warning : \dimen \linethickness is already defined (\relax it first) )) (/usr/local/context.new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/ppchtex.mkiv ppchtex : using PiCTeX and MetaPost ))) It appears to work as before... (I will now look into your color suggestions.) Alan

i split ppchtex in mkii/mkiv (and included the fixes) so we can improve things eventually

can you check if it still runs ok (beta zip on website)

Hans

Works correctly (bonds in red, atoms in black): \usemodule[chemic] \setupchemical[rulecolor=red] \starttext \startchemical \chemical[ONE,SB,Z0][C] \stopchemical \stoptext However, the following variant does not work. \usemodule[chemic] \starttext \startchemical[rulecolor=red] \chemical[ONE,SB,Z0][C] \stopchemical \stoptext I don't understand, as my (quick) look at the source code indicates that the parameters should be handled identically. Alan

On Wednesday 13 May 2009 10:33:18 Hans Hagen wrote:

Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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Works correctly (bonds in red, atoms in black):

\usemodule[chemic] \setupchemical[rulecolor=red] \starttext \startchemical \chemical[ONE,SB,Z0][C] \stopchemical \stoptext

However, the following variant does not work.

\usemodule[chemic] \starttext \startchemical[rulecolor=red] \chemical[ONE,SB,Z0][C] \stopchemical \stoptext

I don't understand, as my (quick) look at the source code indicates that the parameters should be handled identically.

no, that was actually the problem ... local vs global ... for the moment set it up local (per formula) as i need to make an inheritance chain

now that i've split in mkii/mkiv that's easier since we no longer have to keep things working in latex (which means that we can use more core helper code)

just remind me occasionally

OK. The following extension would also be useful: \usemodule[chemic] \starttext \startchemical \chemical[SIX,B,rulecolor=red,AU][] \stopchemical \stoptext