In my experiments with luatex, there's one thing that may be surprising for many users: we have come to expect that the characters ` and ' in our input files map to single left and single right quotation marks. luatex just typesets them "verbatim," so to speak. It converts the combination `` and '' to double quotation marks, however. So my question: wouldn't it make sense to convert the single marks as well? (And please don't tell me "Oh but you should use \quote {} instead of ` '." I know that, but I guess that many users have hundreds of old documents where they use `'. Moreover, ' also creates the apostrophe character, which cannot be avoided.) Best Thomas
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
In my experiments with luatex, there's one thing that may be surprising for many users: we have come to expect that the characters ` and ' in our input files map to single left and single right quotation marks. luatex just typesets them "verbatim," so to speak. It converts the combination `` and '' to double quotation marks, however. So my question: wouldn't it make sense to convert the single marks as well? (And please don't tell me "Oh but you should use \quote {} instead of ` '." I know that, but I guess that many users have hundreds of old documents where they use `'. Moreover, ' also creates the apostrophe character, which cannot be avoided.)
there is a feature: texligatures=yes for the rest, we can consider mappings but i fear that we end up in a quote mess ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
there is a feature:
texligatures=yes
for the rest, we can consider mappings but i fear that we end up in a quote mess
is that the same as tlig=yes ? This doesn't effect the single quote. I see the problem with the "quote mess"; in the old pdfTeX, it wasn't even possible to get the ' character at all. But it is a minor anoyance in terms of backward compatibility, I think. Thomas
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
there is a feature:
texligatures=yes
for the rest, we can consider mappings but i fear that we end up in a quote mess
is that the same as tlig=yes ? This doesn't effect the single quote.
these quote thingies were actually font hacks, and depended on the fontencoding and such, which makes files non portable
I see the problem with the "quote mess"; in the old pdfTeX, it wasn't even possible to get the ' character at all. But it is a minor anoyance in terms of backward compatibility, I think.
well, we can make a converter, much simpler than the greek debabelizer -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
well, we can make a converter, much simpler than the greek debabelizer -)
Hans
What, even simpler! :-) Of course, it could also be done via Arthur's code for a fea file. I'm just wondering if this behavior should be made the default. Thomas
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