columnsets messed up

Henning Hraban Ramm

1 Jul 2021 1 Jul '21

6:04 p.m.

Hi, I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV. - the first line can start one or more lines lower - then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom - it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all) - if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does Hraban \definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2] \starttext \chapter{This is a chapter about column sets} \startcolumnset[cgjcolset] \dorecurse{20}{ \samplefile{sapolsky}\par } \stopcolumnset \stoptext

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Hans Hagen

2 Jul 2 Jul

6:51 a.m.

On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Hi, I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV.

- the first line can start one or more lines lower - then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom - it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all) - if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does

Hraban

\definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2]

\starttext

\chapter{This is a chapter about column sets}

\startcolumnset[cgjcolset]

\dorecurse{20}{ \samplefile{sapolsky}\par }

\stopcolumnset

\stoptext Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very controlled situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be mixed with the normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate on the grid (i can probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even force that but not now). Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that should be disabled.

Here is a simple example: \setuplayout[lines=40,grid=yes] \definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2] \starttext \definecolumnsetspan [chapter] [background=color, backgroundcolor=red] \setuphead[chapter][page=no,after=,before=] \startcolumnset[cgjcolset] \startcolumnsetspan[chapter] \chapter{This is a chapter about column sets} \stopcolumnsetspan \dorecurse{20}{ \samplefile{sapolsky}\par } \stopcolumnset \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Henning Hraban Ramm

9:03 a.m.

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Am 02.07.2021 um 08:51 schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Hi, I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV. - the first line can start one or more lines lower - then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom - it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all) - if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does Hraban \definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2] \starttext \chapter{This is a chapter about column sets} \startcolumnset[cgjcolset] \dorecurse{20}{ \samplefile{sapolsky}\par } \stopcolumnset \stoptext Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very controlled situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be mixed with the normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate on the grid (i can probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even force that but not now). Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that should be disabled.

Thank you, I got it mostly working now. The CGJ layout doesn’t actually use \chapter but its own convoluted \startArticle. Until last issue it tried to be flexible and setup three different column modes. Now I eliminated the last leftovers of that. I still struggle to understand some pecularities... What I did wrong: * \setuplayout[grid=yes] is important * you can’t start a columnsetspan before the columnset Hraban

Hans Hagen

9:25 a.m.

On 7/2/2021 11:03 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 02.07.2021 um 08:51 schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Hi, I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV. - the first line can start one or more lines lower - then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom - it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all) - if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does Hraban \definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2] \starttext \chapter{This is a chapter about column sets} \startcolumnset[cgjcolset] \dorecurse{20}{ \samplefile{sapolsky}\par } \stopcolumnset \stoptext Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very controlled situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be mixed with the normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate on the grid (i can probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even force that but not now). Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that should be disabled.

Thank you, I got it mostly working now.

The CGJ layout doesn’t actually use \chapter but its own convoluted \startArticle. Until last issue it tried to be flexible and setup three different column modes. Now I eliminated the last leftovers of that. I still struggle to understand some pecularities...

What I did wrong: * \setuplayout[grid=yes] is important * you can’t start a columnsetspan before the columnset

leter this year i will into the several column mechanisms (maybe also some mechanism to warn for mixed usage or use of features that interfere .. doing columns is hairy in tex) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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