Dear friends, I noticed that the crossref instruction in my bib file does not work. In the documentation are no clear clues. I changed InCollection --> InBook and vice versa. I tried putting the referenced book before and after the referencing item in the bib file. In fact, a reference does appear (between brackets), but the title referenced to is not printed. I read in the archive Taco's advice of putting \setbox\scratchbox={\hbox{\placepublications}} before \completepublications, but Context stumbles at the setbox command. 2. I also have problems with sorting author names like Van den Heuvel. Under Latex I used \noopsort, but this does not seem to work under Context Does anyone have a clue? Kind regards, Robert
Rob Ermers wrote:
Dear friends,
I noticed that the crossref instruction in my bib file does not work. In the documentation are no clear clues. I changed InCollection --> InBook and vice versa. I tried putting the referenced book before and after the referencing item in the bib file. In fact, a reference does appear (between brackets), but the title referenced to is not printed.
I read in the archive Taco's advice of putting \setbox\scratchbox={\hbox{\placepublications}} before \completepublications, but Context stumbles at the setbox command.
I have made an error in that example. It should be \setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\placepublications} without the outer braces. Sorry about that (the next release will try to fix the \crossref).
2. I also have problems with sorting author names like Van den Heuvel. Under Latex I used \noopsort, but this does not seem to work under Context
This should work (but don't define \noopsort yourself, that is already done by the module itself). A minimal (but complete) example would be very welcome. Can you mail me a zip or tar archive privately? Cheers, Taco
Hi Rob, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
I have made an error in that example. It should be
\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\placepublications}
without the outer braces. Sorry about that (the next release will try to fix the \crossref).
It is one of those days where nothing goes right ... a) this is still the wrong solution (should have been a \vbox instead of a \hbox), but also b) this will not work with the new betas, because they handle the list placement differently. :-( So, the only way right now to get the effect of \crossref, is to find the \crossref-ed items that are missing and \cite them by hand in a non-displayed box, like so: \setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\cite[bovenkerk-komen2003]} sorry, I messed that up. Like I said earlier: the next release will definately fix the actual \crossref, and then all of these silly tricks will become unnecessary.
2. I also have problems with sorting author names like Van den Heuvel. Under Latex I used \noopsort, but this does not seem to work under Context
This problem was somewhat the reverse of Giuseppe's. The actual sort order in the bbl is fine, but it failed because the alternative= and sorttype= commands were both in a single \setuppublications command, and as a result the sorttype= was ignored completely. I altered your example document to: \setuppublications [alternative=apanl] \setuppublications [sorttype=bbl, refcommand=authoryear] and that made the list come out OK (except for using the english version of the bibl-apa, since I do not have your dutch one ;-)) Also, if you have the latest beta (1008) there is another bug you should be aware of. in the definition of \doAU, there is a \doifempty, where there should be a \doifemptyelse, like so: \def\doAU#1,#2% {\doifemptyelse{#2} {#1\bibalternative{otherstext}} {#1\bibalternative{andtext}#2}} I am sorry about all these issues, but at least it should be clear why it is a beta ... :-/ Greetings, Taco
Thanks Taco, I got it working. Thanks. In the mean time, now the reference works, I got another nasty problem. In my file there is a reference from A to B. Both titles are printed OK. However, the reference to B. does not print all right. The culprit is Ye{{\c{s}}}ilg{\"o}z, Y{{\"u}}cel I tried different ways to solve this by putting, but alas! Does anyone know how to solve this? Kind regards, Robert A. @INCOLLECTION{harchaoui-yesilgoz2003, author = {Y{\"u}cel Ye{\c{s}}ilg\"oz and Sadik Harchaoui}, title = {Hoe vang ik een vlieg}, booktitle={Vliegen vangen}, year = {2003}, pages= {59-85}, crossref={bovenkerk-komen2003}, } B @BOOK{bovenkerk-komen2003, editor ="Bovenkerk, Frank and Komen, Mieke and Ye{{\c{s}}}ilg{\"o}z, Y{{\"u}}cel", title ={Vliegen vangen}, address = {Den Haag}, publisher = {Boom}, year = {2003}, } Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Rob,
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
I have made an error in that example. It should be
\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\placepublications}
without the outer braces. Sorry about that (the next release will try to fix the \crossref).
It is one of those days where nothing goes right ... a) this is still the wrong solution (should have been a \vbox instead of a \hbox), but also b) this will not work with the new betas, because they handle the list placement differently. :-(
So, the only way right now to get the effect of \crossref, is to find the \crossref-ed items that are missing and \cite them by hand in a non-displayed box, like so:
\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{\cite[bovenkerk-komen2003]}
sorry, I messed that up. Like I said earlier: the next release will definately fix the actual \crossref, and then all of these silly tricks will become unnecessary.
2. I also have problems with sorting author names like Van den Heuvel. Under Latex I used \noopsort, but this does not seem to work under Context
This problem was somewhat the reverse of Giuseppe's. The actual sort order in the bbl is fine, but it failed because the alternative= and sorttype= commands were both in a single \setuppublications command, and as a result the sorttype= was ignored completely.
I altered your example document to:
\setuppublications [alternative=apanl]
\setuppublications [sorttype=bbl, refcommand=authoryear]
and that made the list come out OK (except for using the english version of the bibl-apa, since I do not have your dutch one ;-))
Also, if you have the latest beta (1008) there is another bug you should be aware of. in the definition of \doAU, there is a \doifempty, where there should be a \doifemptyelse, like so:
\def\doAU#1,#2% {\doifemptyelse{#2} {#1\bibalternative{otherstext}} {#1\bibalternative{andtext}#2}}
I am sorry about all these issues, but at least it should be clear why it is a beta ... :-/
Greetings, Taco
Rob Ermers wrote:
Thanks Taco,
I got it working. Thanks.
In the mean time, now the reference works, I got another nasty problem. In my file there is a reference from A to B. Both titles are printed OK. However, the reference to B. does not print all right. The culprit is Ye{{\c{s}}}ilg{\"o}z, Y{{\"u}}cel
Disappearing accents? Try this, right after loading the module: \let\sanitizeaccents\relax Taco
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