full-width Chinese comma (U+FF0C) and ordinary comma (U+002C) in Chinese texts
Hello, I'm typesetting a bibliography with some Chinese books that have both the English translation and the original title in Chinese ideograms. The Chinese titles contain both full-width commas (U+FF0C) and ordinary commas (U+002C), followed by spaces. Full-width comma has a wide glyph that incorporates some space on the right side; I read on Wikipedia it's a mistake putting a space after it. THE PROBLEM ConTeXt does not break a line after a full-width comma (even inside a "{\cn ... }" group), while it does with an ordinary comma, followed by a space. When there are only full-width commas, sometimes I'll get overfull boxes, because ConTeXt finds no feasible breakpoints. I'm tempted to replace all the full-width commas with ordinary commas followed by a space. Is it possible, or is it a mistake? Or, how do I tell ConTeXt that breaks can occur after full-width commas? Massi
mf schrieb am 14.11.2024 um 17:45:
Hello,
I'm typesetting a bibliography with some Chinese books that have both the English translation and the original title in Chinese ideograms.
The Chinese titles contain both full-width commas (U+FF0C) and ordinary commas (U+002C), followed by spaces.
Full-width comma has a wide glyph that incorporates some space on the right side; I read on Wikipedia it's a mistake putting a space after it.
THE PROBLEM ConTeXt does not break a line after a full-width comma (even inside a "{\cn ... }" group), while it does with an ordinary comma, followed by a space. When there are only full-width commas, sometimes I'll get overfull boxes, because ConTeXt finds no feasible breakpoints.
I'm tempted to replace all the full-width commas with ordinary commas followed by a space. Is it possible, or is it a mistake?
Or, how do I tell ConTeXt that breaks can occur after full-width commas?
Use \setscript[hanzi] to enable linebreaking for chinese. Wolfgang
Il 14/11/24 17:52, Wolfgang Schuster ha scritto:
mf schrieb am 14.11.2024 um 17:45:
Hello,
I'm typesetting a bibliography with some Chinese books that have both the English translation and the original title in Chinese ideograms.
The Chinese titles contain both full-width commas (U+FF0C) and ordinary commas (U+002C), followed by spaces.
Full-width comma has a wide glyph that incorporates some space on the right side; I read on Wikipedia it's a mistake putting a space after it.
THE PROBLEM ConTeXt does not break a line after a full-width comma (even inside a "{\cn ... }" group), while it does with an ordinary comma, followed by a space. When there are only full-width commas, sometimes I'll get overfull boxes, because ConTeXt finds no feasible breakpoints.
I'm tempted to replace all the full-width commas with ordinary commas followed by a space. Is it possible, or is it a mistake?
Or, how do I tell ConTeXt that breaks can occur after full-width commas?
Use \setscript[hanzi] to enable linebreaking for chinese.
Wolfgang
Thank you, Wolfgang! It works! Since I'm typesetting mixed-languages text (mainly Italian, with some English, French and German), should I limit the \setscript[hanzi] to the Chinese spans of text, or can I set it for the whole bibliography containing Chinese titles? It looks like the latter is true (and simpler, of course). Massi
mf schrieb am 14.11.2024 um 18:10:
Il 14/11/24 17:52, Wolfgang Schuster ha scritto:
mf schrieb am 14.11.2024 um 17:45:
Hello,
I'm typesetting a bibliography with some Chinese books that have both the English translation and the original title in Chinese ideograms.
The Chinese titles contain both full-width commas (U+FF0C) and ordinary commas (U+002C), followed by spaces.
Full-width comma has a wide glyph that incorporates some space on the right side; I read on Wikipedia it's a mistake putting a space after it.
THE PROBLEM ConTeXt does not break a line after a full-width comma (even inside a "{\cn ... }" group), while it does with an ordinary comma, followed by a space. When there are only full-width commas, sometimes I'll get overfull boxes, because ConTeXt finds no feasible breakpoints.
I'm tempted to replace all the full-width commas with ordinary commas followed by a space. Is it possible, or is it a mistake?
Or, how do I tell ConTeXt that breaks can occur after full-width commas?
Use \setscript[hanzi] to enable linebreaking for chinese.
Wolfgang
Thank you, Wolfgang!
It works!
Since I'm typesetting mixed-languages text (mainly Italian, with some English, French and German), should I limit the \setscript[hanzi] to the Chinese spans of text, or can I set it for the whole bibliography containing Chinese titles? It looks like the latter is true (and simpler, of course).
I would limit it to chinese because it can mess up spacing for puntuation for the other languages. You add the setting to the language switch with the following method: \startsetups [chinese] \setscript[hanzi] \stopsetups \setuplanguage [cn] [setups=chinese] Wolfgang
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