Am 31.07.2021 um 00:05 schrieb Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context :

On 30 Jul 2021, at 22:24, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:

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Hi all,

I noticed that beginning July 27th, the messages distributed by the ConTeXt mailing list appear to be from

Mailing list for ConTeXt users

without the actual name of the sender appearing. ...

I see the same thing, also on Macos. Looking at an older message, I see that the Reply-To: header has changed from

Reply to: Bruce Horrocks , mailing list for ConTeXt users

to

Reply to: mailing list for ConTeXt users

If you click on that name, you can see the actual address. Hraban

I think so too. Especially since the original sender's address isn't included in "reply to all" messages. ________________________________________ Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Otared Kavian via ntg-context Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2021 11:31:40 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Otared Kavian Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:47, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: […] If you click on that name, you can see the actual address. Hraban Sure, but I don’t understand why the behaviour has changed. It seems to me a regression… Best regards: Otared

I think so too. Especially since the original sender's address isn't included in "reply to all" messages. I think it's an improvement. I have never understood why the original sender needs an additional mail, on top of the one (s)he receives from

I read some lists (not this one) through game's nntp interface. So it's nice being notified if someone responds to your message. Also, I do t think I've ever received duplicate mails so I guess they are filtered out somehow. I think some lists do that automatically... ________________________________________ Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2021 12:20:01 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Thomas A. Schmitz Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Strange new behaviour of the mailing list On 7/31/21 11:41 AM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: the list. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________

On 31 Jul 2021, at 00:05, Bruce Horrocks wrote: […] I see the same thing, also on Macos. Looking at an older message, I see that the Reply-To: header has changed from

Reply to: Bruce Horrocks , mailing list for ConTeXt users

to

Reply to: mailing list for ConTeXt users

So I suggest that there is little you can do as it appears to be a configuration change on the mailing list server; and Apple Mail doesn't have the facilities to easily allow you to re-write that header

Hi Bruce, Thanks for your reply. I don’t know what has triggered this change, which seems to me strange and inconvenient. Best regards: Otared

Am 31.07.2021 um 12:00 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context :

message headers read now:

From: Otared Kavian via ntg-context To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Otared Kavian Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context"

Before they read:

From: Otared Kavian To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context"

Ah, I didn’t recognize you mean this. Since the mail goes through the mailing list software, the sender must not be the original sender any more – ntg.nl is not allowed to send emails for a different domain. Many securely configured mail servers reject “faked” sender addresses, as they should. Look up DANE etc. Hraban